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    “Texas needs to be less dependent on the federal government, not more. These politicians want to mismanage our electric grid just like they mismanage our border,” the statement said.

    I don’t think it’s objectively possible to be more mismanaged than the current Texan electrical grid.

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      It’s perfectly managed if your priority is corporate profits…

      If you want the cheapest, most environmentally friendly, or stable supply, well, then youre not the priority.

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        I don’t even know if it’s corporate profits, that’s actually a drawback to the corporate grid(see Enron’s intentional mismanagement of California’s energy grid)

        It’s just pure power for the ruling elite of Texas.

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          Keeping their grid only in Texas allows their energy sector to skirt federal regulations since it doesn’t fall under the Interstate Commerce Clause.

          Skipping federal environmental and Safety regulations allows texas energy Corporations to be more profitable.

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    Secessionists in Texas have called a bill that would require the state’s power grid to connect to the nation’s major grids a “direct attack” on efforts to make Texas an independent nation.

    I think an attack is what actively trying to secede from the nation gets you

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    I also oppose this bill, because I don’t think that the rest of the country’s power grids should be negatively impacted by Texas’ grid mismanagement.

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      Actually it wouldn’t. If they connect to the federal grid they’re subject to federal regulation. The whole reason they did their own thing originally is that they didn’t want to be subject to the tyranny of the federal government.

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        As a Texan, I believe we could use a lot more of the Federal Government intervening in our state affairs.

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    Evey cold winter, every hot summer, people in Texas die because of that shitty power grid. Texas nationalists: “Let them keep dying!”

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    “Texas needs to be less dependent on the federal government, not more. These politicians want to mismanage our electric grid just like they mismanage our border,” the statement said.

    Oh bless your heart. You don’t understand just how fucked you are, considering y’all couldn’t keep your grid working a few winters ago and have been the butt of that joke literally every winter since (and going forward as well).

    Maybe y’all can just fly to Cancun like Raphael did?

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    “Texas needs to be less dependent on the federal government, not more. These politicians want to mismanage our electric grid just like they mismanage our border,” the statement said.

    Okay, if you feel that strongly about it, how about you fix and winterize the Texas power grid so your residents don’t go without power for days on end?

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    They should be getting upset at more things. Don’t stop at power. Do food too. And trade. Be a independent, stop relying on federal government aid.

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          Charge who? And in what form? Interstates in Texas are not toll roads. A little from fuel taxes & vehicle registrations maybe, but certainly not enough to maintain all the interstate (i.e. Federal) highways.

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            I’m not from Texas, I’m asking the question. I heard, forget where, that most highways are essentially toll roads. Sure there are a handful of bigger ones that cross state lines that are free. But being the biggest state means that most aren’t those. The smaller connecting ones are still just that, toll roads. Sure, it’s entirely possible an individual never has to pay because their commute doesn’t deviate from the one free highway. But for most, isn’t the freeway/highway just one big toll road?

            I just saw the map and most federal highways revolve around the Houston area going East/West. Wanna go north, pay. Wanna go south, pay.

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              No, very few highways are toll roads. Houston has 1, Austin has a couple.

              Usually the biggest interstates are Federal, then smaller ones are State, then smaller ones are County or City, etc. Very few are toll, at least in the West & South US. I can’t speak for the densely populated states in the NE bc I’ve never been there.

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    As an american in the PNW, I strongly support Texit. With the immigration nightmares we have in the south, a large southern boarder state that we could close our boarders to would greatly help. Right now, federal law allows them to ship immigrants around the country, but an international boarder would solve that problem.

    Further, to avoid tarrifs, most mexican shipping would reroute to california, arizona, and new mexico. Moving the hubs of shipping closer to my part of the country would reduce costs.

    So go crazy, you glorious idiots.

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      As an American in Texas, I strongly support you not egging on these fucks that want to ruin MY HOME even more than they already are. The repuglicunts have been in power for 30 years and have drug this state down into the dirt with them.

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      With the immigration nightmares we have in the south, a large southern boarder state that we could close our boarders to would greatly help.

      If you think controlling the Rio Grande is difficult, I do not believe you’ll find that the northern side of Texas will be much easier. If nothing else, you’re going to need a lot more razor wire.

      Further, to avoid tarrifs, most mexican shipping would reroute to california, arizona, and new mexico.

      If Texit happens, Arizona will be quick to follow. Which is to say, it won’t, and for all the same reasons.

      But California already does a ton of direct traffic with Mexico, as sea shipping tends to be far faster and cheaper than overland travel, particularly given the deplorable state of our southern rail networks.

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        I’m not sure we’ve been to the same Rio Grande. Maybe west of Junction there’s some good flow but you can wade across pretty easily east of Big Bend.

        But yes, razor wire on the texas boarder feels appropriate… not because of the migrants, but rather the texans.

        I’m not hearing calls for Arizonit, maybe their blowhards are quieter than the texans.

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          I’m not hearing calls for Arizonit

          Almost 1 in 4 AZ Republicans wants to secede from the U.S.

          Online pollster YouGov surveyed more than 35,000 U.S. adults in 46 states earlier this month and found that just about a quarter of Americans said they would support their state seceding, ranging from less than 10% in Connecticut to 36% in Alaska.

          There are some pretty obvious trends in the data, chief among them that “larger” states — be that in population or geography — are the most willing to secede. Alaska leads the way with 36%, followed by 31% in Texas and 29% in California.

          And that desire for secession is driven by Republicans and Republican-leaning independents, who overwhelmingly are more supportive of seceding across the country. (New Jersey was the only state where Democrats were more in favor of secession than Republicans, 17% to 16%.)

          This is a generic “taking my ball and going home” sentiment that springs up any time Democrats control the federal government. It flips to “If you don’t like it, there’s the door” as soon as a Republican takes office.

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      Democratic lawmakers introduced the Connect the Grid Act last week, aimed at ensuring the state’s power grid does not fail again like it did during 2021’s Winter Storm Uri, which left millions without power for days and claimed hundreds of lives. Rep. Greg Casar of Texas said by requiring the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT) to connect to neighboring grids, Texas would be able to avoid similar tragedies in the future. ERCOT serves most of the state’s 30 million residents.

      It’s a bill by a House Democratic that will never see a floor vote much less a trip to the Senate or the Governor’s desk.

      Texas residential housing getting energy bills that jump from $15/MW to $3000/MW isn’t a bug, its a feature. If connecting to the grid dilutes the leverage that local gas power plants have in gouging electricity prices, there’s no way this is going to pass.

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        Brexit didn’t involve the central government bringing in armed forces to quash the rebellion, so this will definitely be a thousand times worse at the least. Texit would be the start of a civil war because the government won’t let them leave, and I’m sure some other idiot governor would try to send their local guard detachment to ‘help’.

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          That’s how the first one started. They had many more states and still lost. This one against the modern U.S. Military would be over in a week.

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    I literally moved out of state because of that storm and the finger pointing afterwards. I hate Abbot, I hate the Republicans, and I hate anyone who aligns themselves with those factions. It’s been 3 years and I’m still furious.

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      Meanwhile my brother in law apparently had some life-altering experience because his kids were cold in the house and still refuses to lift a fucking finger to get out of this shitbag state.

      Mayonnaise motherfuckers will allow this state to flourish despite everything.

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      You left your home because of it. You’re entitled to your anger. Hope things are better where you are now.

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    This is a direct attack from the progressive left to try and stop Texit. They know that Texit is inevitable and they are trying to make independence harder—we won’t let them.

    Lol, you think your red-wing leaders are going to allow ‘Texit’ to happen, when it would ensure the federal loss of Republican majorities for decades?

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      Texit would result in…

      • A perpetual Democratic majority in the US.
      • A sudden spike in available Federal road construction dollars, as Texas will no longer be usurping a massive chunk more than they contribute.
      • The closing and relocation of numerous military bases, which would utterly devastate a number of communities that only hang on because of the thousands of welfare queen freeloaders polishing knobs while wearing camo.
      • Texas suddenly needing to find sources for things like corn and wheat.
      • Tens of thousands of businesses instantly shuttering and moving to other states because they literally cannot be operated outside of the United States. Like… you know… the fucking aerospace industry or anything with encryption.
      • The sudden realization that they do not have a military and thus no way to defend their borders without Cletus and his yokel buddies.
      • The slightly less sudden realization that Cletus was vaporized from fifteen miles away by a missile fired from an F35.
      • A descent into Russia-tier dipshittery.
      • Getting hit in the face that without the Federal government to play off as the boogeyman the Texas legislature would have to actually fucking accomplish something for once.

      That last one is what will insure none of these inch-dick GOP fucks let this happen. They KNOW they’re worthless. They KNOW they’re trash humans. They KNOW they have created a base that will absolutely murder them the moment the bread runs out.

      So I’m all in favor of Texit. There are literally no downsides for me.

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        Your last point is exactly what happened with Brexit. Guess what? They are still blaming all the bad stuff on Brussels.

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      This is a direct attack from the progressive left to try and stop Texit. They know that Texit is inevitable and they are trying to make independence harder—we won’t let them.

      LOL they can’t even get their smears right. The “progressive left” are the ones most likely to go “fuck 'em, let 'em go. See how they like it.”

      I don’t personally support that position, but only because I understand there are decent people trapped to one degree or another by the presence of job or family who are not the ones voting for these asshats in charge down there.

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    Somebody.

    Go get the biggest dictionary you can find and start thumping these idiots with it.

    They need to understand that words do in fact mean things. And given how “devout” they are, I suspect thumping with large books is the only way to get anything across.

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    Wow, the US is really running as fast as it can to its own dark age/middle age isn’t it?

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    They are ironically the opposite of nationalists. Secessionists, Separatists, or at best, Nationalists only for the old Republic of Texas (which was a country after separating from Mexico but before joining the US).

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      Yes, that’s exactly what these asshats are. Texas, not USA, is the “country” they’re nationalist about. That’s why they call themselves Texas Nationalists not nationalist Texans. A bunch of them are actually nationalist Texans too but they’re too dumb to see the contradiction. Just like they’re too dumb to see the contradiction when flying a US flag & a confederate flag together. They’re not the sharpest tools in the shed; they’d literally shoot off their own feet if they thought it might pwn the libs.

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        So, in a word… And I say this as a European non-english speaker, so I may have got meaning and culture all wrong… It would be unpatriotic?

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          Ah ok. Yes, these people are being unpatriotic to the US by wanting to secede from the US. But many Texans are more patriotic towards Texas than the US. But it’s just because there’s a Democrat president. When their believed cheetoh jeezus was in office, no one in TX was trying to secede & it was all “USA USA!!!” I lived in Texas for 40 years & they bring up seceding every few years when they don’t like the president. It’s really stupid & will never actually happen.