Summary
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, in a private meeting inadvertently broadcast via a hot mic, warned that Donald Trump is seriously considering annexing Canada to secure its critical mineral resources.
Speaking to business and labor leaders, Trudeau claimed Trump’s administration is keenly aware of Canada’s resource wealth and sees annexation as a means to control it.
The comments, cut off after staff realized they were audible, underscore growing economic and political tensions.
He also stressed the need to diversify trade, noting, “Geography means we’re always going to both benefit and be challenged by trade with the United States.”
I wonder if he’s gonna give Alaska to the Russians.
can’t they just import things like this from Mexico and China
So they invade canada and its world war 3? All nato alliey against the us which is like 80% of nato, that doesn’t look good.
US is like a bully. But a huge, strong, armed bully, which is now also crazy and looks unpredictable. I doubt the rest of Nato, especially this castrated, limp EU would do anything to protect Canada. They would frown and condemn the us verbally, but probably watch from afar. That’s my impression at least.
Exactly, theres no way this triggers WW3 unless Canada starts working more closely with China immediately and even then it’s unlikely China goes to bat for Canada. Western countries have gotten way too comfortable with the US.
Lol that would probably look like the Winter War where Finns were vastly outnumbered but still won because they know how to survive the winter. I hope the americans wear body cams when they invade. It will be very satisfying to watch the Rocky Mountains literally kill them man vs nature style.
And Canadians are so fucking brutal historically in war. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0230d9mp5WY
Also not sure if relevant but Canadian true crime seems to be way more often gory and needlessly violent compared to your typical run of the mill murder stories.
I would deeply, deeply hope that American soldiers would never follow an order to attack Canada. For all of the Trump insanity, I still have hope that most people aren’t batshit like him.
Not to disrespect the amazing achievements of the Finn’s in that war, but they lost, and lost half their country.
Incredible job not to lose the whole thing ofc.
Not to disrespect the amazing achievements of the Finn’s in that war, but they lost, and lost half their country.
In actual reality, we lost 9% of our territory to USSR due to WW2. One city, two towns. By official sources, about 400 000 Finns evacuated the conquered territory, and about 20 people remained and became Soviet citizens.
As a finn, not sure I would call it a lost war to keep independence against an enemy that has superior manpower and resources at their disposal in comparison.
And half is not even close to the truth.
This is just big talk for the cameras. The logistics of such a thing. Are so ridiculous and insane that if it was actually attempted. Canadians would basically become slaves with no rights… The Country would be torn apart by Resource fiends. They wouldnt even know what to do with 40 million people under a different legal system, so that would imply hundreds of thousands of people would end up just getting murdered or dying of neglect as society collapses
And that would open the door for massive waves of violence. What ISIS, AQ, etc did to America, That would absolutely be on the table.
This goes for any country. But if a country that’s supposed to have been our friend and ally for generations decides its time for Imperialism, and wipes out their neighbor like that in some putin hairbrained map drawing fantasy… Let me just say that Treachery is the lowest circle of hell. And people would have absolutely zero qualms after having everything taken away from them, in such a betrayal, zero qualms about targetting the civilian population of the aggressor.
and abandoning the whole somber story of how life would be over for 30-40 million Canadians, let me say that this act would 101%, without a doubt, Cause a US civil war. This is a Red line. And if there isn’t an eruption of mutinies, coups, revolts and violence in the US as it was enacted, Well, in that case, the Nazis already won.
The funny thing is they were saying the same thing in public
Only in private did they say the worry was real
Our dedicated boys keep the peace in newly annexed Canada
Australians are pissed. We have been right with the yanks in “America 1st” for decades and we get looked over again
They know that China will defend us… and then claim Australia as red territory.
Trump must realise Canada one of the founding members of Nato and an attack on one is an attack on all.
Im not Canadian I should add but yeah this kind of thing really will not go well for anyone same goes for Greenland.
A blue state with the population of texas, lets see how that affects congress.
Canada will be treated like Puerto Rico to ensure this doesn’t happen…
Monkey Paw: Supreme court rules that the federal government get to draw the maps. You get a totally gerrymandered State of Canada, Magats remain in power forever.
Ontario gets one congressional district, Alberta gets like 10
This is what I’m saying.
It would be worse for canadians, but better for Americans which would make things better for both in the long run.
Only a crazy person would trade decent healthcare for the right for every idiot man child to buy a gun. Its a horrific deal for canadians.
Canadians and honestly most of the world hate American healthcare and gun laws.
I would kill and die in a war with Americans if they tried to force us into becoming Americans. I would rather die and take as many of you with me as possible than become an american
Guarantee I’d be sabotaging shit on this side to help you guys win. Every sensible American loves our Canadian neighbors and respects their sovereignty.
make no mistake, that line gets crossed. its over for everyone.
The US will enter a civil war. And it probably wont end for decades Canada will be destroyed. Gobbled up in the same civil war south. NATO will cease to exist. Europe will be in peices. The war with Russia will expand, many of europes countries will refuse to honor treaties and end up fighting each other until some vague lines are drawn between Russia and the resistance.
As as US citizens here i will join your side
Yeah I was gonna say let me cross over real quick. I’m American, so I’ll bring my own guns as long as you can provide some healthcare.
Violence in exchange for healthcare is celebrated by a lot of people.
Minnesota will likely join you. And if you don’t know our state history, don’t fuck with Minnesota.
We fucking love Minnesota. You guys are awesome.
Can we get a hint?
Well, starting with the civil war Hancock would, if I remember correctly, go on to credit MN for essentially winning the battle that turned the war. Here’s another good write up.
They lost 82 percent of the fighting force in a day. Biggest lose for a unit in American history.
We can start going more modern from there, however, in terms of straight state pride, fuck the slaveowners. Fuck unjust governments. That battle is everything a Minnesotan needs to know when it comes to fighting for what’s right.
We also took a confederate battle flag that day(Virginia’s?) and every couple years or so they ask for it back and get told to pound sand. The full embodiment of being Minnesotan
I’d say you guys are already honorary Canadians, but I’m told I shouldn’t fuck with Minnesota, so I’ll just do a friendly nod as I hold the door and wish you a nice day neighbour and please give my best to yours and if your kids are up for it my kids wanted to do that playdate, so would pizza be ok, let us know if there are any allergies we should know about.
Eh, with current events, most of us would take that title with open arms. However, title only, our work of undermining the current administration is just getting started. Most of us would rather be Canadian, but think about the chaos we will sew from the inside out.
Anyway, sounds great, only allergies are fascists, thanks.
I like your fighting spirit. I look forward to calling you my countryman.
And as an american I applaud you for it. This is the dumbest timeline.
I’m American and I’d be 100% on your side, there is every reason to not be in the US, you don’t deserve our fate.
How would that even work. It’s an an entire country made up of provinces. We have our own provincial governments. Canada is fucking huge. How would they enter? The border spans the whole width of the continent. Do they even have a big enough military to even do that?
None of this even makes sense, it sounds like the biggest dumbest joke any president has ever came up with, besides building a wall along the opposite border, which may have started but never even finished, or turned out way too expensice to be realistic or something like that, what ever the fuck happened.
For Canada’s population they are a remarkable country, but even so, for Canada to win a war they don’t need to fight, they only need to walk backwards and wait for winter.
No you wouldn’t.
Okay not to downplay the fucked up reality of this situation, but does it bother anyone else that the Orange Idiot thinks Canada should be just one State? And one hostile to him and his party at that, out of spite if nothing else.
i knoe Alberta is probably red, what about the other providences? Any Canadians want to chime in? What would the hypothetical blue/red breakdown be?
Our conservatives are left of your democrats. We don’t have any red.
PPC is our political party similar to republicans and they didn’t get any seats last election.
The problem is that the PPC is politically a nonstarter, so they hitchhike on the Conservative party.
the whole reason the PPC exists is because Maxime Bernier threw a hissy fit that he wasn’t selected to lead the Conservative party. and it was instead given to Erin Otoole or Andrew Scheer, (I honestly forget which one)
PPC has effectively re-integrated with the conservative party as other factions of the CPC have effectively embraced MAGA/Trumpism/Quisling Collaborationism. making PPC irrelevant and redundant.
I live in rural AB and I’d be surprised if 1 person in 10 had anything good to say about trump. Most people know that he’s a lying shitbird, and want nothing to do with him. And frankly Danielle Smith is sliding fast since her toadying reaction to his tariff threats.
AB would join before ANSCHLUSS.
SK red.
ON swing state, it’s rust belt all over again.
Maritimes votes along with New England.
MB is dealing with mosquitoes.
BC blue.
NL swing but mostly blue.
PQ 3rd party, but generally very strong blue. I don’t see PQ annexation happening though. It’d sooner fight for independence from either.
You must be in the East if you think like this.
You must be in the East if you think
The BQ would change their slogan to “nous autres, on l’a l’affaire!”
I’m an outsider.
Do you think the military will comply with an order to invade Canada? Usually the higher ups are pretty sane people (in the West).
Legally. Trump is Commander in Chief. the readers digest version of most people’s understandings is they’re supposed to follow his orders to the letter.
practically. who fucking knows. I would predict military bases start shooting at themselves as factions fight for dominance in towns, cities, bases, and states. it would effectively be a civil war. there would absolutely be a coup attempt by a faction of the military.
The amount of chaos this decision would cause would be on the same scale as World War III officially breaking out. America would be in total chaos while it tries to launch an invasion of Canada, (Whether it be the Little green men method of just rolling troops in and the defenders choose not to shoot at them. or it be the Feb 2022 method where Canada formally declares itself to be in a war state and the state attempts to resist, IE a shooting war then insurgenct)
this would absolutely cause a civil war in the states, like I said, but Im not even gonna attempt to theorize how it would turn out. the only thing I know is the world would be in flames.
Even if the higher ups somehow agree (which would be insane), the actual troops are the ground are 50% POC or minorities. I can’t imagine them going through this hatred by the whitehouse and still continuing to follow orders. There will be a break in chain of command at some point.
Also peep the military subreddit on Reddit they are talking about breaking chain a lot, whether they will it’s still to be tested but it’s definitely indication of where things lie.
Member when this was just a south park joke?
They’ll just make up some “logistical difficulties” as an excuse to refuse the order.
This quite a historic geopolitical paradigm shift. It’s been implicitly assumed that the two countries are forever allied out of mutual interest.
It’s been implicitly assumed that
Society seems to be built on a lot of obviously untrue assumptions.
Trump is trying to speedrun the destruction of the US
Thwre is never a permanent ally or permanent enemy in the context of countries and alliances.
USSR was an “ally” until the the axis lost, then immediately became an enemy overnight. Japan then went through the occupation and changed from an enemy into an "ally of the US.
China (ROC), was once an ally of the us, then CCP took over and became an enemy, then the “Opening Up and Economic reforms” happened and now the US and China are sort of “frienemies”, but now with trump’s tariffs, its enemies again.
Heck, the US revolted against UK, and now they are sort of allies all the way throught the world wars until now with trump’s isolationism.
There is no “allies” or “enemies”, just temporary co-operations and competitions
This reads like some edgy teen wannabe version of realpolitik… Grow up.
Trump is using Putins playbook. Constantly threaten to annex your neighbors. Neighbors take those threats seriously and start to build up a standing army at the border. Convince populous that the neighbors are threatening the nation and are preparing for an invasion. Yada yada yada. Start a “special military op“ and invade neighbor.
Can Americans just own their own dictator and expanding philosophy, please? Americans have been invading nonstop since they started to exist, Putin wasn’t even a spermatozoid. If there is an encyclopedia on this, it is written in English.
Putins playbook wasn’t exactly that.
he already had control of Ukraine, the problem was his capos were idiots, pissed off the people. and the people kicked out his capo with torches and pitchforks.
he then declared all future ukrainian governments illigetimate. and his actions have been based on a vague idea of “It all used to be one country 300 years ago because of imperialism, and the current government is not legitimate”
That argument doesn’t work with Canada and the US. Yes, the US tried multiple times to take British North America, but failed.
Effectively, America already does control Canada through influence and assertion. but Canada is still a sovereign country. Smooth brained fascist and imperialist Chuds, just want America to look bigger on a map. they think that if there is ever a war with China, they’ll need Unfettered access to all materials in grasp. (which doesnt make sense based on their tariffs against taiwan, those tariffs imply they’re going to let China take taiwan, therfore no war with China)
at the end of the day, its dumb chuds who treat world politics and the hundreds of millions of peoples lives affected by it, like its a game. and they’re angry with canada because america has believed for decades that they’re in a culture war, and canadians are the opposition because they’re on average, much more liberal than american liberals.
I mean Trump has literally forced both Canada and Mexico to move a standing army in the thousands to the borders now, so I see he is not wasting time with this casus belli.
Mexico already had 10k troops on the border.
He is Putin’s pawn
Wrote up a summary months ago (with reputable sources!) and warned about Nazis too and was permabanned from Lemmy news and politics for it.
Idk man, you can tell people stuff, but it’s so hard for them to access what’s real right now. There’s a concerted online effort to suppress factual info.
Nothing Trump says is a joke, unless he realizes he’s getting too much pushback on it for going too far. Then it’s a joke.
Trump has zero sense of humour. He never jokes. Every comment he makes is a serious possibility in his mind.
His best trait is his comedy skills in my honest opinion. He absolutely has a sense of humour. And I’m an angry Canadian who would put a bullet in the guy’s head if I could.
Dude is funny. That’s why he’s in office.
The thing is that there is a truth behind every joke.
Sorry, but no. You might have brain damage if you think he’s funny.
If you think about it. Have you ever seen him actually laugh or just smirk?
This is the happiest I’ve ever seen him.
Trumpy only smirks when he’s insulting people.
I just had this conversation with my boss yesterday. He said he thinks the comments are funny because he thinks he’s joking and just making everyone mad. I said no, he may present it as a joke to test how far he can go, but if there’s not enough pushback, he keeps going.
But also like, what if that was what he’s doing… Why is this funny again? This is the president, why would we want someone who jokes about serious shit like that in charge?
The brain rot in this country runs deep.
Still never a joke to him, that’s what his supporters say for cover.
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They had said, “Ha! He was making a funny!”
Rumours that the United States, in conjunction with Wile E. Coyote, are going to Nuke North Korea into Next Tuesday are GREATLY EXAGGERATED
Yea, everyone knows it’ll be Monday. The worst day of the week.
