• mlg@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    Not only hypocrisy, but also not true at all lol.

    Biden pretty much okay’d Universities arresting their students to stop protests because his lobbyists threatened to withhold funding for both the party and each respective university.

    Of course he didn’t care about the zionist mob that attacked UCLA students, so it’s pretty clear where he stands.

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      2 days ago

      All they have to do is pledge to follow the Leahy Law…

      Israel won’t comply, which means we legally can’t provide arms. Kamala doesn’t even have to be “the bad guy”, she can just say she’s choosing to follow American law and if Israel wants arms then they can comply like every other recipient has to.

      It’s really as easy as saying:

      If elected I will not break American law to send arms to foreign countries.

      Boom, election locked up.

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        You people really have a massively inflated concept of how many voting progressives that there are. Get off the internet for a while…

        Harris would 100% lose the election if she said that.

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        How many voters would she lose if she declared intent to stop assisting Isreal?

        She might possibly gain a few, but would she lose any?

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          It’s a valid question and I’m sure the Harris campaign has spent considerable resources trying to get a good estimate of that number.

          It’s pretty insane that the Democratic party officials have to say, “We’d love to stop funding a genocide but our members won’t vote for us if we do that.”

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          2 days ago

          Is not about voters, it’s about money. Both parties are bribed to keep it going.

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          She’d gain more than she’d lose, even before counting in the electoral college. Conditioning Israeli aid is supported by the majority of people of Democrats, Republicans and independents, and the people who don’t want it don’t care too much either way. Definitely not more than left wingers who want the genocide to stop. In terms of votes it’s a no brainer.

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          She would likely gain voters because she would be distinguishing herself from Biden who remains deeply unpopular.

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            2 days ago

            Yeah, I would hope there are more anti-genocide voters but i doubt it, honestly.

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      2 days ago

      Best they can do is thoughts and prayers. Oh wait, that was school shootings. Never mind then.

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          Israelis don’t have the guts to even look the children in their eyes as they slaughter them. Cowards.

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            When they actually face real soldiers like in Southern Lebanon they get their arses handed to them.

            All they know is blow up pager, burn refugee camp, bomb hospitals, shoot pregnant women in belly, rape men to death, and sniper bullets in kid’s heads.

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              I’m also offended by Israeli war crimes but I don’t think that’s an accurate assessment.

              As far as I can tell, the Israeli military is very good at violence. They’re extremely well equipped, they have superb training, and their military personnel tend to be dedicated to their cause.

              The main problem isn’t their ability to kill and destroy, it’s their indiscriminate use of that ability.

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      Okay, now let us know how you plan to keep Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel. Or does it not count when Jews are being genocided?

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        You aren’t allowed to criticize Hamas and Hezbollah on here. Only IDF. Or actually all of Israel. Unless you are some Iranian-backing anti-Zionist, you get downvoted. It’s too bad what has happened to discourse on Lemmy that people aren’t even willing to contemplate the actions of all parties involved.

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        The current extremist government in Israel knows exactly what they need to do to stop Hamas and Hezbollah from continuing to attack Israel, they just don’t want to. They’d rather continue to create the conditions for extremism so that these attacks can be used as justification to finish their genocide.

        At this point we know that if you keep an entire group of people poor and oppressed with no prospect of economic opportunity or achieving a viable state, they become easier to recruit into a terrorist group. What have they got left to lose? Why NOT grab a rocket and attack your oppressors? This is why international law doesn’t allow the creation of stateless persons…

        Israel could STOP settlement expansion into the West Bank, first and foremost. They could start complying with international law and internationally recognized borders. They could stop working AGAINST a two state solution.

        Maybe the Israelis could stop assassinating their own leaders when they work towards peaceful solutions. They could also stop radicalizing their own youth and defense forces to believe that the only solution is to exterminate the Palestinians.

        There is a whole range of things that they could do… I wonder why they don’t?

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          What they need to do to stop Hamas and Hazbollah from attacking them is to eliminate them entirely.

          I don’t think you understand that the continued existence of groups who’s only purpose in life is to kill a specific subset of people CAN NOT be allowed to exist. They CAN NOT run a state, they CAN NOT be expected to honor any sort of peace treaty.

          I’m not blind. I know damn well Israel is committing atrocities during the war. The problem is that the people they’re fighting against are worse than them, so it only makes sense to support Israel until these terrorist groups are dead and gone.

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        After burning those kids alive, honestly, I’ve given up caring what happens to the people in Israel.

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    Anti-arab hate… let’s see… Arab hate is bad, so anti-arab hate is good… but they are trying to “counter” anti-arab hate, so that’s bad?

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    Setting aside the hypocrisy, is it just me or is it infuriating how the whole article is a whole lot of nothing?

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      Did you even read it? It states literally 20 bullets on how the Executive Branch will combat racism.

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          According to the White House site linked here that you didn’t read, we only care about the ones that pay U.S. taxes or live in the US, including Muslim immigrants in the US. The others outside of the USA can go fuck themselves.

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        I just read that list. As near as I can tell they put a lot of words in that don’t actually promise anything helpful. Maybe I’m wrong.

        Let’s make it as easy as possible to show this plan in a good light. Instead of finding one bad bullet point in that list and tearing it up, let’s see if we can find one good one.

        Out of that entire list, which bullet point do you think has the best chance to actually “counter Islamophobia and Anti-Arab Hate?”

        edit: grammar

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    This is pure Liberal brainrot, sometimes reality feels like a parody of itself. I dont even have much to say tbh, im too tired for this bs.