While immigration officers support the Trump administration’s goal of deporting undocumented migrants, many of them have grown ‘disillusioned’ with leadership’s tactics, according to reports

Morale is “plummeting” among federal law enforcement officers tasked with carrying out the Trump administration’s aggressive anti-immigration operation, as they complained that long hours, ambitious arrest quotas and hatred from the public, according to reports.

While officers at Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Customs and Border Patrol, overseen by the Department of Homeland Security, said they supported the administration’s goal of deporting undocumented migrants, many of them have grown “disillusioned” with the tactics being implemented by leadership.

More than 20 current and former immigration officials told The New York Times of their discontent in the hours following the fatal shooting of 37-year-old nurse Alex Pretti by a federal agent in Minneapolis.

It was the second deadly shooting of a U.S. citizen carried out by a federal agent in weeks, as officers clashed with protesters following intense public anger over the violence in Minneapolis.

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      Unionize and demand better working conditions, like lower quotas, only criminal record targets, proper long training, and 32-hour work weeks. Strike to get it. Get fired in the process. 😂

      E: Learn radical left ideology in the process.

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      Them quitting is a good first step but wont solve the underlying issue. ICE recruited Nazis. They will be Nazis with or without ICE.

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        The Nazis are not the ones with the moral morale problems, I’m sure. They are all walking around at half-mast over the hate they are receiving and the atrocities they are committing.

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        Fuck that.

        Prior conditions.

        ALL the prior conditions. U.S. healthcare will prove to be just as fatal, optimizes suffering, far more expensive, and the frustration of knowing you could be cured easily by a functional system run by a caring society.

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      I don’t know if this is true, but the employment contracts supposedly have a repayment clause. So the assumption is many people are financially unable to quit once they are hired.

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          It’s a unique ice thing. I’ve heard they are paid a bonus and are on the hook to give it back if they don’t work 5 years. Ofc they could just not spend it but assuming they did they owe the government money if they quit.

          I don’t care though, they are murdering people in the streets

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          Its actually really common in the US. Hiring bonuses get paid out at the end of the first year but are paid on the first day. The repayment is pro-rated based on how long you worked.

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          I’ve never heard of this before but it is a real thing. I would chock this up to the Administration not wanting to really pay anyone… thus trying to ensure they don’t get massive numbers quitting.

          Also, anyone notice that all the people working for DHS during all of this that media has captured in public are men? Is that by design or do women have better morality?

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        My wife told me about some lefty podcast she listens to where the host was recruited by them and went through the process just to take a peek behind the curtain. Apparently the 5-year repayment thing is real, at least going by the contract they gave her.

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      They all got massive sign-on bonuses. If they quite before 5 years they have to pay 10k per year they left early.

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    Oh, we don’t just hate you, ICE agents, we want you in prison for the rest of your lives at the very least. Or publicly hanged like the Nazis you are.

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          The morning after Benito Mussolini’s death, partisans dumped his corpse in Milan, and an angry crowd soon converged. The mob kicked, spat at, and urinated on the body of “Il Duce” while shouting curses at the dead dictator. His mutilated corpse was then hung upside down from a gas station, a symbolic retribution for the suffering he had caused.

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          Their bodies were left in a heap, and by 9:00 a.m. a considerable crowd had gathered. The corpses were pelted with vegetables, spat at, urinated on, shot at and kicked; Mussolini’s face was disfigured by beatings.[53][54] Allied forces began arriving in the city during the course of the morning and an American eyewitness described the crowd as “sinister, depraved, out of control”.[54] After a while, the bodies were hung by their feet from the metal girder framework of a half-built service station.[53][54][55] This mode of hanging had been used in northern Italy since medieval times to stress the “infamy” of the hanged. However, the reason given by those involved in hanging Mussolini and the others in this way was to protect the bodies from the mob. Movie footage of what happened appears to confirm that to be the case.[56]

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            Of all the shit I know about Mussolini, the most fucked up fact that sticks with me is that he laughed at running over a child. That is the piece of shit he was.

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      I do want them in prison forever, but I’m not really hopeful that will happen.

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      And are they gonna make it loke a Vietnam veteran flick from the 80s? Except have them opening fire onto people holding milkshakes or something? Or maybe edit it to make it like they were under heavy machine gun fire and took massive casualties while their humane and PC leader from afar told them not to do anything before they went ‘fuck it! Enough with this woke shit!’ And returned fire after half their unit was dead?

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    Don’t buy these cope articles. Been seeing them over a year now. The Trump administration’s fracturing. Republicans are rejecting Trump. And now we have this. Don’t buy it they’re trying to make you complacent. Trying to make you slow down and take your foot off the pedal.

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      Don’t buy it they’re trying to make you complacent.

      They’re not. They’re encouraging us to keep up the pressure because it’s starting to work.

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      Basically anyone that’s good news, isn’t. At least these days.

      But I do hope it is somewhat true. I would love to hear about rampant depression and a 100% “an hero” rate.

      I don’t cheer for that often, but sometimes it seems 300% justified.

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        Who would have thought Amazon caused all this by killing brick and mortar stores and malls, thus creating the mall cop to ICE pipeline.

        All this time I thought it was caused by Amazon dumping money into the Trump administration. Completely different.

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    Hey, ICE agents. A really good way to permanently solve your morale problem would be if you hanged yourselves. All the problems you’ve caused yourselves, your families, your communities, and this nation would be over. Please, do it. You are all unloved and untouchables. You will never be so again. It’d be easy. Google can even teach you how to tie a noose.

    You ICE agents might as well do it now before society brings its revenge on you. It’d be less painful.

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    Morale is plummeting among ICE agents

    I’d like to know how this compares to the morale crisis reported about 6 months back. Is it consistent or has it gotten even worse.

    as they complained that long hours, ambitious arrest quotas and hatred from the public

    Total lack of empathy. Their complaints are all about the impact on them. “We work too long, too hard, and without proper recognition”. No thoughts given to the cruelty that they release into the world.

    many of them have grown “disillusioned” with the tactics being implemented by leadership

    Is it just the actions of leadership that bother them and not their own actions? Is their complaint not that they are murdering, harassing and unlawfully targeting the most vulnerable among us (children, elderly sick, etc) because they don’t like the color of their skin? What changes are they hoping to see? Parades that celebrate their cruelty? Pizza parties for the team with the youngest person disappeared? An Amazon gift card for the most laws ignored in a month?

    “It’s completely unfair to the agents who have been put in this position,” he added. “There’s only so much they can handle before bad things start to happen.”

    Nope. It is completely fair. They are 100% responsible for their own actions. The agents are the ones committing these acts. They can refuse illegal orders, they can resign, they can obstruct, they can be whistleblowers.

    “The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop.”

    Aaah, so close. They almost had a moment of recognition.

    “All of the sources support the mass deportation agenda, but have serious hesitations about the way it is being carried out and the messaging that comes with it,” … “Many of the sources have expressed frustration that ICE is routinely blamed for the actions of Border Patrol, a completely separate agency.”

    Again with the complete lack of personal responsibility or awareness of the consequences of their own actions

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      “The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop.”

      Unbelievable.

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        this is the propaganda machine at work. this is what the moral apathy of a man turned empty vessel. this is the banality of evil. it has been with us for decades, even centuries. this form of evil is common many places.

        it is, unfortunately, extremely believable

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      Total lack of empathy.

      It is my unfounded, unsubstantiated belief that this is the biggest reason why ICE was chosen for the gestapo-like role they have now. If you take every last department with manpower and guns, the role of “disrupting and upending the lives of otherwise peaceful people” is far and away the one responsibility that differentiates it from all other roles. Like working in an abattoir, empathy just gets in the way of processing illegal immigrants for deportation. A total lack of empathy was a job requirement before all this kicked off. We shouldn’t be surprised that this is what we’re up against.

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      “The violence and dehumanization of these men and women who are simply enforcing the law must stop.”

      simply enforcing the law

      That’s going to be the “I was only following orders” of the American Nuremburg Trials.

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      Sounds like a bunch are just covering their asses with the “just following orders” line. Look, you can follow orders, ones you may not even be privy to even being lawful (I’d imagine there might be assumptions made in a few scenarios), but the moment you learn a warrant wasn’t signed, or that excessive force is used, etc. You are now culpable and an accomplice to a crime. I can watch a friend a rob a bank, but if I do nothing, even if I’m told to be quiet about it, I will be tried for that crime as well.

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    In 10 years, these assholes are going to hope nobody in their new neighborhood finds out they worked for ICE under Trump, or else they’ll have to move again.