• Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    (If you think my saying you fled the country is an insult, that’s on you. I’d have skipped my family right the fuck out of here if I could, and I sure as fuck don’t think less of you for doing it)

    I have gone through this entire comment chain three times now and I have not seen you give one single idea about how to deal with these terrorists.

    No, you have made it very clear that you have zero ideas how to deal with terrorists.

    Sigh… I said I don’t know, repeatedly, and even quoted myself saying that. I don’t have an answer, I’m just certain that you and I are in complete agreement on how much we can trust the cops to keep us and ours safe during this. They’re the thing I’m worried about, they aren’t about to turn on each other.

    and crying from stress

    Lie, I’m not doing that.

    Me, squiddy. I am the person that was doing that. I’ve been doing that for a little over a week now. They’re going to kill my damn family, dude. My students. My friends. And there’s not much else I can do except cry about it.

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      You don’t know and yet you berate me for saying that I want someone to come up with ideas.

      I guess you don’t.

      I’m sorry you are at risk, but that is no reason to repeatedly insult me. And yes, you have repeatedly insulted me in the last few days. Here are two examples from this specific conversation:

      you have lost your damn mind.

      Go hug your kid, you utter utter jackass.

      Immediately after calling me an “utter utter jackass” that post, you lied in the next one and said:

      Buddy the most hostile I’ve been towards you is telling you to go hug your kid.

      And now you’re lying again and claiming you never insulted me.

      This is, I assume, the point where you claim calling someone an “utter utter jackass” is not an insult.

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        At no point did I deny I insulted you. Jackass is a mildly insulting term used to ascribe extreme obstinance, often in the defiance of reason or self interest, a trait donkeys (the eponymous ‘jackasses’) are famous for. It’s not an unfair characterization, and I can expand on what I mean with that if you’d like.

        The most hostile I have been towards you is telling you to go hug your kid. And I was sincere. It’s hard for me, someone with decades of experience of being persecuted for being LGBT+ and that has a huge and entrenched local community I can fall back on for support, to handle this right now. I cannot imagine how hard this is on her, and though I’m certain from your many characterizations of her that she understands and appreciates the necessity and what you are doing for her, she could probably use a hug right now. And asking someone to walk away from the keyboard and evaluate what is actually important in their life right now is fairly hostile.

        I’m sorry you are at risk, but that is no reason to repeatedly insult me.

        Being told to rely on the police because there is no other hope, while I suspect I understand why you said it, is incredibly tactless bordering on open insult. I’ve been gassed and/or beaten by the cops more times than I can count, even shot once, and generally harassed endlessly. I am not even slightly unique in this experience. Spreading a message of hopelessness and submission isn’t what anyone needs right now.

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          Yeah, okay. Go into a bar and call some random stranger an “utter, utter jackass” and see if they think you didn’t insult them.

          🙄

          Not even dictionaries agree with you.

          Neither do thesauruses:

          I’ll bother reading the rest of what you wrote when you’re less dishonest.

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                My apologies, I really let that one get away from me. Thank you for being so understanding / moderating this community, I can’t imagine it’s particularly fun right now.

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                  Why do the mods tolerate this at all? Like if certain users are doing this repeatedly, should they not just be banned?

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                    We need to be very careful about overreaching with regards to pulling comments of/banning users that are showin to be at least making an attempt to debate/disagree in good faith.

                    Especially now. Everyone is stressed and scared for our friends and our families, and our uncertain future. So there is bound to be some people that need to vent.

                    Lemmy should be that place. A forum that promotes debate. And if we (mods) bestow upon ourselves the authority to determine what people can and cannot disagree with, it’ll get pretty boring around here.

                    So we try and let things carry out to their natural conclusion as much as possible. If it seems it’s devolving into a slap-fight, we reluctantly step in to break it up.

                    Hope this helps.