• Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    18 days ago

    Thing is all that crap can be stitched together by 12 year olds in Alabama instead of 12 year olds in China.

    I don’t think he can really comprehend a chip fabrication plant costing 10 times his entire net worth. He probably thinks that what they make in “Silicon Valley”…

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      18 days ago

      I recently saw gamers nexus’ Intel tour. It was like seeing a sci-fi movie, it’s incredible how advanced the stuff they do is. I also found it incredible how much it takes to build a chip… It takes about 2-3 months from wafer to chip.

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        18 days ago

        It takes about 2-3 months from wafer to chip.

        After spending 3-4 years building the factory and even more time finding and training staff.

        But, sure, tarriff the hell out of things that can’t be made domestically for (optomistacally) half a decade. That’ll certainly make it happen instantly…

        /fucking morons.

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          I’m sorry, but you people talk about making state-of-the-art chips, while in many cases something like year 1990 will do. It’d be a very ambitious endeavor too, but both realistic and useful.

          What they are doing will reduce economic competitiveness of the whole USA, but in terms of incentivizing domestic industries it will work. No miracles, but it will give incentives to what can be done quickly enough. And if we consider that electronics already are cheaper in US than in EU or in Eastern Europe, this won’t be too bad.

          I’m not a Trump fan. Just - what these people want to do is not without rational justification in economics. It’s a weird justification, of the kind USSR’s strategy of existence had, but then the reasons USSR failed were not in that part about self-reliance in strategic industries. One can argue it collapsed because it didn’t really achieve that due to administrative inefficiency, as in “went bankrupt”. It was exporting fossil fuels to finance the appearance of domestic heavy industries, which were not profitable. At some point that wasn’t enough money.

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            17 days ago

            people talk about making state-of-the-art chips, while in many cases something like year 1990 will do

            It still takes time to spin up a chip fab, even one with 30 year old capabilities.

            And, since nobody domestically makes the machinery needed, that too will be subject to the import tarrifs and probable delays caused by the ensuring trade war restrictions.

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      17 days ago

      It won’t be paid from his net worth or from even the government’s budget.

      It will, if it happens, be expected to redeem costs based on the demand of the whole USA, which is, ahem, an obscene amount of money.

      Anyway, you don’t have to start with something like TSMC. Producing MCs for home appliances is already very cool.