Israel’s bombing of Lebanon might doom Kamala Harris’s White House chances by tanking Arab American turnout in Michigan.

Until now, the story of Michigan’s role in the election has centered on Arab Americans’ profound discontent with the Democratic Party over Israel’s relentless devastation of Gaza. The war has left deep emotional wounds.

Israel’s recent military incursion into Lebanon feels like another twist of the knife, intensifying the sense of betrayal and alienation of one of the most critical voting constituencies in the country.

Kamala Harris’s chances of winning the presidency will plummet if she loses Michigan, and current polling shows she and Donald Trump are neck and neck there.

Come November 5, I think we may look back on the weeks after Israel invaded Lebanon as the moment Harris lost significant ground in the race.

    • apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
      52·
      2 days ago

      I just dont know what your original point was. It is already happening and will continue under both admins. Vote for Harris yeah but it ain’t gonna change this issue.

        • apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
          53·
          2 days ago

          He already is unchecked. He will remain unchecked. This is the unfortunate, and rather obvious truth. Both parties fund and arm the genocide, and pave international groundwork for it to persist. This has been US foreign policy for decades.

          • Doug Holland@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            Exactly. So the issue of genocide in Gaza is effectively moot in the 2024 election. Both sides are pro-genocide, so decide your vote on other issues. Trump, of course, is better on exactly none of the issues.

            • apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
              21·
              2 days ago

              Yep. We should be factual about the differences as there are many and stop focusing with blatant fabrication.

    • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      98·
      2 days ago

      It already is being finished. Killing innocent people is political orthodoxy. Anyone who supports that is someone with whom I cannot agree.

      • MapleEngineer@lemmy.caEnglish
        82·
        2 days ago

        So vote for someone who has no chance of winning allowing a fascist to destroy US democracy and ensure the annihilation of Palestinian people. Awesome principals.

        • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          69·
          2 days ago

          If Trump is bad because he would kill Palestinians, then the ‘principle’ is that no one is good, because no one is stopping it.
          You are trying to have your cake and eat it, too.

          I reject your nihilism, it is disgusting. And I maintain that innocent people being killed is not acceptable.

          • MapleEngineer@lemmy.caEnglish
            42·
            2 days ago

            In Rwanda is 1994 the Hutus killed 800,000 Tutsis in 100 days.

            If Isreal were unrestrained they would have mounted bulldozer blades on their tanks, IFVs, APCs, and lined them up with their engineering vehicles and armored bulldozers, plowed the infrastructure and people of Gaza into the ocean, and built settlments on the land.

            But by all means, you keep using those big words and telling yourself whatever you need to to maintain that sense of moral superiority. I hope to god that Harris wins for the sake of the Palenstinian people.

            • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              12·
              2 days ago

              I hope to god that Harris wins for the sake of the Palenstinian people.

              And what if she wins, killing innocent people continues, and you rationalise that as acceptable? After all, your preferred candidate won.

                • Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  11·
                  2 days ago

                  but you will feel good about yourself because of your principled stance

                  I will, thank you! It is a good thing to be against killing.

                  Voting for anyone else

                  I’m not voting at all, because I am complying with American law. I hope you appreciate that, unless you like election laws being broken? I don’t, because that will almost certainly help Trump win, overall - that’s why the project so hard about election law being overrun by scary immigrants and what have you, because they intend to break those same laws to secure a victory.

          • MapleEngineer@lemmy.caEnglish
            11·
            2 days ago

            In Rwanda is 1994 the Hutus killed 800,000 Tutsis in 100 days.

            If Isreal were unrestrained they would have mounted bulldozer blades on their tanks, IFVs, APCs, and lined them up with their engineering vehicles and armored bulldozers, plowed the infrastructure and people of Gaza into the ocean, and built settlments on the land.

            But by all means, you keep using those big words and telling yourself whatever you need to to maintain that sense of moral superiority. I hope to god that Harris wins for the sake of the Palenstinian people.

      • MapleEngineer@lemmy.caEnglish
        113·
        2 days ago

        No, I think it’s grotesque. I’m just realistic about the people who are dumb enough to think that they are punishing Harris by electing a fascist who will allow Netanyahu to do whatever he wants. It’s fucking stupid.

        • ShepherdPie@midwest.social
          54·
          2 days ago

          Netanyahu is already doing whatever he wants. You claim to think it’s grotesque yet call people “dumb” and “fucking stupid” for taking a principled stance against the people actively enabling it.