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    I have a lot of questions about different parts of this title that I don’t understand, but I support him.

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      Marc Tyler Nobleman was supposed to talk to kids about the secret co-creator of Batman, with the aim of inspiring young students in suburban Atlanta’s Forsyth County to research and write.

      Then the school district told him he had to cut a key point from his presentation — that the artist he helped rescue from obscurity had a gay son. Rather than acquiesce, he canceled the last of his talks.

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        First of all thank you for saving a click. Secondly, Marc Tyler Nobleman is not just a Batman researcher, he is a symbol. What an absolute Chad.

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          Would he have said the artist had a ‘straight’ son? Or is it just a son in that case?

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                You are deflecting from the conversation by “what about”-ing the straights. This conversation isn’t about his son being straight. The straight kids can have a place in this conversation when people start trying to criminalize their very existence.

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                  You misunderstand.

                  I’m highlighting how the son’s sexual orientation would likely not be brought up if he was straight, unless it was relevant to the story at hand.

                  Mentioning someone is gay just because they’re gay is focusing on their sexual orientation for no good reason, just pointing out that they’re ‘different’ and need to be acknowledge as such.

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      Comic Book Historian would have been a better title. I thought “batman” might have been referring to an unrelated school or something.

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    Then the school district told him he had to cut a key point from his presentation — that the artist he helped rescue from obscurity had a gay son. Rather than acquiesce, he canceled the last of his talks.

    “We’re long past the point where we should be policing people talking about who they love,” Nobleman said in a telephone interview. “And that’s what I’m hoping will happen in this community.”

    They didn’t ask him not to “say ‘gay’”, as the title all but claims. They asked him to participate in the erasure of a relevant gay person from a story he was teaching to children.

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      I dunno, would he mention the artist had a straight son? Or is it just a son in that case?

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        No one wants to hang you for being straight. But you know that. You are just trying to start shit.

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          What are you talking about?

          Was this guy hanged?

          This is the second reply you’ve made that doesn’t make any sense, lol.

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            OP is making a point that the visibility of queer and other minorities in history and in public is more important than the visibility of straight/non-minority people. Their point was that non-minority groups aren’t hated and target for who they are unlike minority groups. It is important to display and teach about the humanity of different groups in order to prevent mistrust and violence against them by the majorities.

            If you really didn’t understand this then you should get your head out of your ass and wake up to reality.

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              Calm down, no need to resort to personal insults. Rule #1: Be civil.

              It seems the guy you’re talking about doesn’t understand my point. Here’s my other post on the matter that can explain it better for you if you’re also having difficulty: https://unilem.org/comment/1447121

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              Or just explain your case better? It seems you’re the one who doesn’t understand what I’m saying, based on your other reply.

              Lol. Not sure why you’re calling me a ‘dog.’ Let’s leave the personal attacks at home, eh?

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                🤣🤣🤣 My fuckin’ sides, dude. You are jumping into an argument about language and you don’t even understand the slang use of the word dog. I mean, “what’s up, dog” has been part of the American vernacular for so long that even if you are ESL, it should have permeated through long ago. Here, lemme rephrase that post so you understand the intent better:

                “learn some reading comprehension, dog man.”

                “learn some reading comprehension, dog dude.”

                “learn some reading comprehension, dog friend.”

                EDIT: knew you didn’t block me, you big ol’ fibber.

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      Wait, was it a relevant person?

      It’s the son of the artist, right? Did the son have anything to do with Batman? Did the son’s sexual orientation have anything to do with Batman?

      What else is relevant about the son? Was he an artist? A writer? What did he do for a living? Did he have any relevant health disorders? Food preferences? Did he have any children?

      BROADLY SPEAKING, your sexual preferences are the least interesting or relevant things in any conversation, unless we’re considering dating each other.

      I don’t know the history of Batman so maybe it’s actually relevant, but my gut says it’s just not.

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    He should have let himself be fired. Then he could have brought a lawsuit against the school district over the matter. The school district would have had to demonstrate their reason to fire him on the record. If the researcher received damages for wrongful termination, the taxpayers would know it’s their money that is being frivolously spent to support someone’s homophobic agenda.

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      Probably couldn’t get them for wrongful termination. At-Will employment is a bitch.

      But he could likely get unemployment for being terminated without cause, which is a different thing.

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        he was a one time guest speaker. you don’t get to claim unemployment for that. and he chose to cancel, not the school

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          he was a one time guest speaker

          In that case, no reason not to walk.

          I knew he’d quit. I was just clarifying that waiting to be fired from a job isn’t useful from a “wrongful termination” standpoint because At-Will Employment means “wrongful termination” doesn’t really exist in any state except Montana. But if he had been an employee, he would have had grounds to collect unemployment if terminated without cause.

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      One of my exes uncle was a well known psychologist that write books and teaches classes on the psychology of Batman.