Saw a post saying some shitty Christian lemmy instance was spamming bullshit on one of their latest posts, I said something along the lines of “probably Russians”. Come to find out my comment was removed and I was banned… then to find out they effectively have a CCP agent running town… lol.
I’ve seen people mention they were a garbage instance, now I know why! They said I broke rule 1 … this might just be the app I’m using but they don’t even have any fucking rules to look at lmao.
Glad they did the work for me and made it easy to avoid them.
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Klik was Russian. Spam was Lithuanian, I think. We don’t talk about Spork at all. /s
I recommend joining an instance that blocks lemmy.ml
Getting a ban from lemmy.ml is a badge of honour that many like to collect.
I got my badge and I am honored.
How do we find out if we’ve been named from an instance?
Perhaps in their modlog?
Awww, only banned from the .ml asklemmy comm. I think I stumbled in there on accident when I sorted by all posts or something and didn’t realize which one it was.
Don’t worry, they also deleted anything I said to them so they don’t have to be burdened by ideas that aren’t in lockstep with a tragically idiotic reading of Marx.
Thanks for letting me know!
One can take this lightly (I usually do), but in reality these people are a danger to the entire fediverse.
Unfortunately, a couple of them are lead devs for Lemmy :/
… and you will note, many of us moved to PieFed.
Cleaner code, saner devs
Yeah, it’s an embarrassing shit stain that .ml is the “main” instance. Every other instance admin is forced to play nice if they want a place to get support, which sucks. Lemmy needs to be forked hard, but those devs are sucking in funding from about a half-dozen or more sources, so they have more incentive than most to do the foot work.
That’s because they’re actually propagandists for those authoritarian governments pretending to be communist. They’re about as communist as the Nazis were socialist.
True and the thing that I wish I could literally scream into every rightwinger in America’s face is that the same is true for our current pedophile in chief
Lmao no in general but yes for lemmy!
Glad that the fediverse allows for mitigating this somewhat by design… but this has absolutely opened my eyes to the glaring flaws on the entire Lemmy platform as a whole.
Normally people block ml quite quickly after arriving. Within a month or two. Maybe you’re not yet aware that you can personally blacklist entire instances, not just communities and users.
Yeah… except no - nothing at all provided in Lemmy restricts users on that instance from trolling you in your DMs, and in posts in communities located on other instances.
You either have to block each user account one by one (and keep repeating that as new ones pop up), or else switch to PieFed to gain the ability to apply a true instance block affecting all users on it at once.
In fact I hear that lately PieFed.social even applies a user-level instance block against Lemmy.ml by default for all new joiners. It is easily removable and a DM sent to the user explaining how. The feature is transparent as a bag of rocks - I cannot even find solid confirmation that it actually exists - but aside from that it’s a good step IMHO to protect the reputation of the Threadiverse from exactly OP’s scenario.
In fact I hear that lately PieFed.social even applies a user-level instance block against Lemmy.ml by default for all new joiners
I don’t think this is true. I looked through the code and the only specific mentions of lemmy.ml are in the instance chooser, where it won’t show you the full defed list of an instance, but (I’m guessing) only the most commonly defederated.
The default interests list even includes some lemmy.ml communities.
I could be wrong though. @[email protected] probably knows for sure ;)
piefed.social (the instance, not PieFed the software) applies a block and sends a custom private message to new users by using a plugin: https://codeberg.org/wjs018/piefed_onboarding
Wait, you mean you have your own personal preferences implemented on your own instance but don’t force those preferences onto others?
Amazing! Who would have ever guessed!?
I had to manually block .ml.
Well I didn’t have to I just wanted to.
I usually just scroll down really quickly… 🥳
Flaws? It’s a feature.
Rule 1 is the ml catchall. It’s often the giveaway for an ml hardliner modding another community on an alt account that isn’t ml.
I mean, what do you expect from an explicitly (m)arxist-(l)eninist instance. Their entire religion is “west bad, russia and china literally the best” and censoring any wrongthink. And yet there you are implying Russia is behind a bad thing. Of course they’d take action against you.
Imo fediverse projects really need to federate instance rules. Just include them in the instance actor (if they aren’t already) like you’d do with a community, then use them if available.
Fwiw, one can be a Marxist Leninist and think Russia’s government sucks. It is anything but Marxist or Leninist.
I know you didn’t mean that, but figured it needed to be said.
Yeah, but the tankies still love them. It’s weird. Putin openly acknowledges he’s trying to rebuild imperial Russia, not the USSR, and still.
It’s weird, but they like him because he’s an opposition to the west. They like him because they hate the west.
honestly I think memorizing TLDs for Geoguessr a few years ago made me think Malaysia before i ever considered .ml to stand for marxist leninist lmao
It’s Mali’s TLD, they just like that it lines up with Marxist-Leninist
Fuck now you’re telling me I mixed up Malaysia and Mali?! Just put me out of misery now
Malaysian here. I was gonna make you feel better by pointing out the similarities between us but after looking them up… Yeah, I got nothing.
put me out of misery now
nono, not .mi DUH
;-)
Sounds about Lemmy.ml.
The other day some bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe shill commented and I pointed out lemmy.ml. More shills apparently showed up to downvote me 🤣
Yeah. They brigade. Well known phenomemon on that instance.
what? The good folks at Lemmy.ml didn’t like you talking down about a dictator?
Wild!
Lol what’s especially frustrating is the fact that I didn’t even! Literally just made the broad assumption that it was of Russian origin.
It’s the digital equivalent of seeing a foreign bomber plane and being like hmm probably the US because we love bombing people. Like yeah you might be wrong… but you’re probably right depending in where you’re physically located!
Lemmy.ml and even more so lemmygrad.ml (the latter is defederated from by most sane instances across the Threadiverse) are tankie platforms. Tankies believe in alternative facts, such as the fact that nobody died in the Tiannamen Square Massacre. Or if they did then they deserved it. Or if they did not then it was necessary. Or if it wasn’t then… - I am saying that you should expect arguments to shift goals moment to moment, based on the personal biases and need to appear right on the Internet, regardless of any need to actually be thus.
And don’t even get me started on hexbear.net, which has no real beliefs at all beyond the raw need to troll people incessantly (this one is also defederated from by nearly all sane instances across the Threadiverse).
So, you are missing out on nothing important whatsoever. Consider yourself fortunate that you discovered this early on.
The usa is the worlds largest arms dealer by a very long way, probably also the biggest spammers, and manipulators.
Russia is worse in every regard and their complete lack of government is quite literally the exact blueprint being used to fuel rightwing extremist media in just about every major country (but hell, they’re literally doing it in just about EVERY country).
They don’t have as many weapons, but who needs that when you can just install your own president over the Americans who pick to be couped?
Weird flex but okay.
Cochrun_xyz wasn’t even the largest spammer. rabotaem_app was, and if you go there (I’d suggest not), it is a Russian language Lemmy site…
The site they were spamming for is based in China.
Their rules are on their front page.
Edit: OP said this:
this might just be the app I’m using but they don’t even have any fucking rules to look at lmao.
I’m literally just responding to it. Thanks for the downvotes 🤡
Rule 1 aka you can’t point out the moderators overt bias or conjecture as to why their bias exists.
I did not downvote you myself, but at a guess perhaps it’s the fact that not everyone uses a browser. Voyager in particular is very popular and I seems to go out of its way to hide that even - like you can click on “Sidebar” to view the community rules, but I have not seen how to be able to read the instance ones.
Voyager also by default hides the instance names after people’s accounts. Every community on every instance is presented as if it were the same as all others. By that logic then, we are all the same space (with no distinction provided) as Lemmy.ml - the entire Threadiverse is very much is a tankie bar.
Strange that it doesn’t show for me when I check, must be a mobile issue of some kind.
Still laughable though, TIL it’s bigoted to suggest the #1 perpetrators of digital warfare are probably committing more digital warfare.
I know it’s a lost cause debating your ban, but looking at those rules I’d say the mods broke #2…
Open the sidebar, that’s where instance rules live, generally.
Yeah why are you getting dumped on??? Insane
Prior to the edit people probably thought they were trying to be snarky about the rules inatead of their intent to show the rules are displayed despite the OP not seeing them.
OP was clear about wondering if it was the app they were using.
This comment made no clarification whether they used the same app or got this from a browser.
Then closed with a clown emoji.
They were providing the rules the OP clearly said they couldn’t see in the app.
The clown was part of the edit and directed at the people downvoting them for providing the rules the OP couldn’t find and where they were located.
Bigotry towards russians? Lmao
Well they were talking about the instance (probably wrong) rather than the bot accounts (possible).
Also, is a 2 day ban really worthy of an indignant post like this?
Also, is a 2 day ban really worthy of an indignant post like this?
Yes. Why is this even a question when we all know it’s part of a bigger trend with that awful instance?
Wasn’t worthy of a post, yet it’s worthy to look at and comment on? Lol.
Genuine discussion is good, which is exactly why I view banning people for saying things as minor as what I said as insane. I’m not just blanket statement assuming all Russians are bad.
Didn’t see it was two days, may as well be a lifetime ban though now that I know the mods ban for effectively just mentioning other countries. It’s bizarre.
I was banned from some community because of “nazi apologia”, lol. I only realized this months later when checking the modlog for unrelated reasons.
Honestly… totally on-brand for me, I’m a big nazi simp. I’ll take every opportunity to glaze Himmler & the boys, fondly reminisce of WWII atrocities, and debate whether we should have included the bavarians in the shoah.
What can I say, that’s on me
Stephen Miller diary entry ahhh reply
I’m a big nazi simp. I’ll take every opportunity to glaze Himmler & the boys, fondly reminisce of WWII atrocities, and debate whether we should have included the bavarians in the shoah.
Found the nazi!
;-)
Ну вы че ожидали? Они там то постоянно так поступают. Я предвижу что все у вас лучше станет немедленно.
I don’t know Cyrillic but assuming google translate got this translated right: I was honestly more shocked that they popped me so quick, if anything.
Usually, they at least try and put up a facade of freedom of speech. To get the psychological walls down and all that, you know?
Nah, that’s for people posting Russian disinformation from other instances. ML is fully just for people who want to luxuriate in it and not bother to pretend.
