• MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zip
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    2 hours ago

    If we all die from the bird flu can we die after collectively doing the chicken dance?

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      Maybe Trump’s narcissism will work in our favor this time. He’s been impeached twice, among other things. Does he also want to go down in history as the president who exacerbated TWO pandemics?

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    I don’t wanna get my hopes up so fear-mongering aside, how actually likely is any of this?

    Because I keep remembering that humans are notoriously bad at future prediction.

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      It’s entirely avoidable, if only Trump would have actually learned something from his first term and actually funded research and prevention teams. Sadly, he only has the foresight to see how cutting those programs saves the US Govt. a penny now, and not the wisdom to see how that panny would have been money well spent if it prevented us from having to spend thousands on recovery efforts.

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        But they made so much money stealing PPE last time! Probably some good extortion money, too.

        Huge bonus if they get to hold a cure over people’s heads, too.

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    There isn’t going to be another pandemic this soon after COVID. Pandemics happen about every 100 years. Pretty much everything happens in cycles and is predictable based on historical patterns. There isn’t going to be another pandemic this soon after COVID.

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    Torture and murder of non-human animals <—> Torture and murder of human animals.

    But I guess the carnists gotta have their sandwiches. \s

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      Y’all can look around and see how little human life is valued. It’s not about humans, it’s about them and only them.

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        Yup. People don’t care about the kids mining their cobalt. To care about the animals they eat would be a long process.

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          And what about the kids that are forced to work in slaughterhouses then? Silly gotchas are not helping anyone.

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      Unfortunately, it’s the rich that are feeding them the garbage that’s infested their minds. I don’t think there’s any saving the masses from the delusion they’re slobbering up, but as long as the buffet keeps getting restocked, the pigs will keep fattening up for the slaughter.

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        being able to be vegan/vegetarian is a privilege. it’s expensive as hell for starters. you can eat meat and still want change in the meat industry.

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          Not to mention there are people who physically have to eat meat. I have anemia due to stage 4 endometriosis. I can’t take iron supplements so have to eat meat or I get very sick.

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        I doubt it will they all have doomsday bunkers. I do hope that they are forced to cower in them for the rest of their days though……because guillotine

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      There will probably be some slant in that direction, but there’ll be a much bigger slant towards killing the elderly, the immunocompromised, those who can’t afford medical care and time off, etc. As usual.

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        As terrible as it feels to say with the way elderly people vote they more often than not fall into the nazi camp. I know my gandad does with fox constantly playing.

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    The fucknut RFK will tell the AmeriKans to drink fish tank cleaner or bleach and shove a UV light down their throats. When this things slams into the USA, Krasnov will continue to fail.

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      Do you think libs are going to tell people to stop eating meat because it’s destroying the planet, breeding diseases, and of course least importantly (\s) torturing/murdering animals?

      Never have. Never will. Chuck and nancy probably have stock in this shit.

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        Do you want people to eat less meat, or do you want to feel superior to people because you eat less meat? Because it feels like the latter from all your comments here.

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      I’m ok with this.

      We’ve known about vaccines, germ theory, and virus for quite some time now. If they want to kill themselves because they choose to not follow the science, so be it. I’m tired of having this conversation with the wilfully and proudly ignorant tomato soup brained infants.

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        RFK jr. Isn’t just anti-germ theory. He doesn’t even follow miasma theory… he follows something even older and more stupid: terrain theory. The idea that you get sick BECAUSE you were unhealthy and not the other way around. That diseases are opportunists looking for malnourished or lazy or weak individuals (weak by their own choices) than just something that can happen to anyone.

        You know those girls who died of measles? He insisted it happened because they were malnourished. No amount of evidence presented by doctors could convince him otherwise.

        Basically we have an absolutely insane conspiracy theorist who has the medical beliefs of a medieval quack in charge of US health.

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          Get down off your high horse. There are people who physically have to eat meat. Btw if you have to take supplements because your diet doesn’t contain enough nutrients, your diet is bad.

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            Let me try to engage with the last point rationally.

            Yes, of course, Vegans take supplements. At least B12 is a required.

            I personally don’t think that makes it a “bad” diet.

            From my perspective, it is the morally correct way of living, for many reasons, one of them beeing that it causes the least amount of suffering for sentient beeing.

            The point you are making (and correct me if I am wrong) is that taking supplements means it’s not a natural way of eating, hence the need for supplements.

            I agree. It is not.

            But there are plenty of things that are natural for us, but we have decided that they are morally bad and hence should not be practiced. Violence, for example, is so natural in humans that even after thousands of years of civilisation we still require laws to regulate or punish it, alongside “outlets” for our violence (like Marital Arts or Video Games). I am sure you can think of other things that are natural to humans, but are considered immoral.

            Eating animals is, in my opinion, just the next step in that line. It’s something that was needed once but is not any longer, at least for the vast majority of people (as you hinted at in the first half of your comment).

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        this whole “valuing specific humans are inherently inferior to others and can’t be saved” business reminds me of something…

        Misinformation is what you wanna target, not the victims

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          How long do you personally choose to argue with a flat earther?

          The evidence is there. The math isn’t that hard and they can do it themselves to prove a round earth. There are a few simple experiments they can do to prove it. They consciously choose to ignore everything and believe something provably incorrect.

          If someone is mentally deficient, or had a learning disability, that’s one thing. I’m not talking about these people. I’m talking about the flat earther type (or anti-vax, or tribalism MAGA nut) who chooses to go against simple science.

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            Media landscapes can be vastly different for different people, and if they’re surrounded by media “confirming” their conspiracies, they will choose to believe that rather than what “some random people” say

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        So, you’re okay with a whole bunch of people who have no problem with vaccines die because they live next to anti-vaxxers?

        Wow, so noble. You really are a moral person and not some idiot wanking your anger boner on the internet.

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          Ideally those who have the vaccine would be protected from the contagion that might come from the anti-vax next door.

          I’m very worried for those who are Immunocompromised or those that can not get the vaccine for whatever reason. When the next plague comes, these are the people I will be supporting and trying to help.

          I think what you fail to understand is many of us spent unlimited hours trying to explain vaccines, masks, washing hands, social distancing, etc to these people during covid and all it did was get them to double down on their anti-social behaviour. I even had a few spit at me.

          So yeah, fuck these asshole cunts. They put all of us in danger.

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    Well that drinking raw milk is paying off, congrats. Someone should strap RFK Jr to a chair and make him drink gallons of infected raw milk.

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    The US will end up with the highest fatality ratio than any other country and Trump will still blame Biden and Hillary’s emails

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    Scientists: we have some good news and some bad news on the pandemic front.

    Public: Gimme the good news first.

    Scientists: We’re going to solve the housing crisis really quickly.

    X/

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    “Top virologists raise alarm” … that didn’t help last time. People and government won’t take notice or want to take action until we see people with blood coming out of their eyes and dying in the streets, and even then, everyone will be more worried about the economy than in the body count.

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      at least worrying about the economy would be an improvement to just worrying about their personal freedom

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          They wanted blue cities to die first. But somehow thought it would never get to the red places.

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          I’m not sure bird flu would work that way, anyway, but I’m sure lots of people with the bro science will declare that it does. Just like the bro science people were saying people were only dying “with” Covid, not “from” Covid.

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        The third pandemic is a good book about a variety of diseases, including bird flu, mingling in a host (bird) body, morphing into a superbug, and wiping out huge swaths of the population.

        If you like to read, it’s quite good, if a bit long. (but notably I read it in 5th grade and hauled around a dictionary for a lot of it… it sticks hard in my memory, because my step dad gave it to me after finishing it himself, and it was a challenge. One of our few shared positive things from the era where he almost killed me multiple times… but I haven’t read it in a hot minute; just shy of 30 years…)

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        There’s a movie for this. Bird flu in america, was mediocre but somehwat accurate for the death rate portrayed