That’s not even the worst of it. Several rooms full of documents were found at his property and, though everyone seems to focus on the toilet one, IMO the worst is the one of a storage room full of classified documents plus a scanner/printer.
Remember, they played an audio recording of him claiming to show classified documents that weren’t declassified to his workers who don’t have clearences. https://youtu.be/inVJF0Dr8mo
He outright admits that the documents aren’t declassified, while knowing he was being recorded, and reads them to people not classified for the documents he’s showing them supposedly. (About 1:20 if want to skip is where he starts admitting to a criminal offense)
I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.
It’s real. The US is on an extreme downward spiral and MAGA plays violin whilst the country burns.
The weird thing is I think we all knew the USA was doomed but I personally didn’t expect to see the downfall in my lifetime and not on a speedrun like it is now. Crazy times
The best part is that this was known long before he was elected the second time.
Any one who goes “I was lied to!” is straight-up just an idiot who regrets that they had to feel a consequence. At best they’re just mind-bogglingly ignorant of how the world functions which is no excuse.
I don’t agree that they should lose their human rights. Dehumanization is a step too far for me.
I believe there is some level of healthcare that is a human right.
I don’t think “job security” or “retirement” is a human right, though I think we might be in a post-scarcity world (where anyone can “retire” if they wish) and we just aren’t acting like it.
You don’t think retirement is a human right or at least should be? Like “congrats on working but you didn’t make enough and no I don’t care why so I guess you’ll be working until you die granny!” You can’t bust in here like claiming a higher level of morality and then saying “let’s pump the brakes on the healthcare a little I mean let’s not go *crazy amirite?”
Anyway, these people voted for everyone not like them to lose their human rights, down to not allowing them to exist while queer or be born in the country to immigrant parents. And so when they lose them too, yea it’s pretty funny. They are getting what they asked for, including the cruelty they cheered on and/or brushed aside, and are crying about it because they aren’t the big strong tough guys they fantasize about being.
You don’t think retirement is a human right or at least should be?
In a post-scarcity society, no one should have to work. But, if there is scarcity, I don’t believe those with less-working-time should (important EDIT) NOT be forced to provide for those with more-working-time.
I do think government-organized retirement is a good thing, but I don’t feel it is a human right.
let’s pump the brakes on the healthcare
I didn’t say that. I think healthcare in the U.S. is woeful, and hardly anything that is a human right is provided as a right. And, we should massively expand the availability of healthcare.
I did imply there are some medical procedures that I don’t believe are human rights. Depending on who I’m talking to, we might even disagree whether a procedure is medical or not. Some people swear by their chiropractors or essential oil treatments.
As an American, I can tell you this is my first time seeing this… and I actively seek out information. Just joined lemm.ee and it’s already paying off.
if you literally did as much as google “trump document case” and find like, the wiki page, these would’ve been on it. There’s an entire timeline page for the documents case iirc.
In their defense, trump & co were doing their absolute best to flood the media cycle with outrageous shit at the time to intentionally overshadow all of this, and the media was following him like rabid puppies.
It wasn’t that hard to miss the details of this at the time unless you were obsessively following the stories in side channels (like me), sifting through the bullshit and going down rabbit holes and reading 800 page court filings, and that could fuck up your mental health. Many people didn’t have the time or capacity for that.
This all happened at the same time as the inquiry into J6, too, which itself was an unprecedented and massive story, overshadowing much of the other treason.
That whole time period was mentally exhausting. I’m saddened and frustrated many people missed the importance of this story, but I do understand.
Not familiar with the bundestag debate, more so concerned about every single action the US executive branch taking being entirely illegal and having no standing at all, myself.
Hunter’s laptop, Hillary’s emails again, but it was mostly that Biden had some documents, too. Trump shouted that all presidents do this, and that what Biden had was worse, and his followers believed that without looking into any context (like all Biden had was some memos, copies of personal notes, etc, and that Biden immediately turned everything over and invited the feds to his home to look for more).
The scale was nowhere near the same, Biden hadn’t intentionally removed classified documents or tried to keep them from the feds, but none of that mattered. Trump saying he was entitled to the documents because everyone else did it was enough for his followers.
e: and in case anyone reading this doesn’t get the implication, notice where the only power outlet in this room is (the white cable leading across the ceiling and along the piping to the office printer, which is the whitish thing at the right of this photo).
It’s basically the only thing besides boxes of documents in this storage room. It was plugged in and being used, not stored. This is so much worse than the toilet photo, yet everyone I show this to hasn’t seen it.
e2: Oh, and don’t forget, this was the ‘holdout’ room, to which maintenance supposedly ‘lost’ the key the first couple of times the feds showed up, then right when they got their ‘no, really’ warrant, it was supposedly flooded by a faulty pool pump. That’s this room. Fuck, in all the insanity, I’d forgot that last bit.
Yes, but this wasn’t a natural flood: it was caused by the in-ground pool next to this basement room, apparently because of an ‘error’ made by a maintenance person the same day they learnt about the warrant.
It affected this room (you can see some moisture on the floor and staining on the nearest box) plus, crucially, the server room adjacent, in a clear attempt to destroy their digital storage. It was called out in the court documents.
This wasn’t a natural flood, and was suspiciously convenient.
Yes that’s one of the actual pictures from the indictment they brought against him. He apparently had like 300 different documents of varying levels of classified status. There’s a couple more iirc of different places like a bedroom and a ballroom stage too. Basically it seems like he had his goons just hide anything he could get his hands on in random boxes of what were supposed to be just irrelevant personal effects
He was only indicted specifically for like 30 of them but my understanding is they specifically chose ones they were willing to have potentially entirely exposed.
I absolutely believe that the Both Sides Are The Same idea is really, really stupid. How dumb do you have to be to believe that HitlerPig was going to be better at anything than Harris, or any other Democrat for that matter. Or even any other human. He is literally the most prolific traitor in American history, a definitive pyschopath, and hopelessly ignorant in the most basic things.
The problem was that when it came to the Gaza issue, they both WERE kind of the same. Whichever one you voted for might pay some lip service to the genocide, but they were both going to continue to send weapons, bombs, and money to Israel to continue it. Under HitlerPig, it won’t end until the Gaza Strip is cleared out, and Kushner is building luxury resorts, hotels, and condos.
Under Harris, there would be a lot more scolding, but it wouldn’t have slowed the flow of weapons one bit. In the end, Gaza would still be emptied, and Kushner would still be creating the Jewish Dubai.
“half” is not really correct; I know that’s not the point though.
The American people collectively had the power to prevent this, and collectively chose not to. Fortunately for me (an American), collective punishment is a war crime, for now.
Buddy, like what you like but most Maseratis I see are pretty boring and some can even feel tacky. And why are so many of them matte black, the tackiest finish? Maseratis definitely sound incredible, though.
Porsches like the 911 are also designed to be sports cars before anything else and even then I still like ‘em. Some came out a little strange for sure but for the most part they’re great.
no the entire archival institute that had to dig up this shit (because it was missing) which he then lied about giving back, trump then got subpoenaed for lying about it.
Yeah no this is literally a criminal conspiracy as far as the government is concerned.
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That’s not even the worst of it. Several rooms full of documents were found at his property and, though everyone seems to focus on the toilet one, IMO the worst is the one of a storage room full of classified documents plus a scanner/printer.
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Remember, they played an audio recording of him claiming to show classified documents that weren’t declassified to his workers who don’t have clearences.
https://youtu.be/inVJF0Dr8mo
He outright admits that the documents aren’t declassified, while knowing he was being recorded, and reads them to people not classified for the documents he’s showing them supposedly. (About 1:20 if want to skip is where he starts admitting to a criminal offense)
It’s real. The US is on an extreme downward spiral and MAGA plays violin whilst the country burns.
The weird thing is I think we all knew the USA was doomed but I personally didn’t expect to see the downfall in my lifetime and not on a speedrun like it is now. Crazy times
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I am not a US citizen and do not live in the US.
Dude. We (along with the other allies) saved your country from fascism in 1945. Can y’all send your military to liberate us?
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The best part is that this was known long before he was elected the second time.
Any one who goes “I was lied to!” is straight-up just an idiot who regrets that they had to feel a consequence. At best they’re just mind-bogglingly ignorant of how the world functions which is no excuse.
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I don’t agree that they should lose their human rights. Dehumanization is a step too far for me.
I believe there is some level of healthcare that is a human right.
I don’t think “job security” or “retirement” is a human right, though I think we might be in a post-scarcity world (where anyone can “retire” if they wish) and we just aren’t acting like it.
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You don’t think retirement is a human right or at least should be? Like “congrats on working but you didn’t make enough and no I don’t care why so I guess you’ll be working until you die granny!” You can’t bust in here like claiming a higher level of morality and then saying “let’s pump the brakes on the healthcare a little I mean let’s not go *crazy amirite?”
Anyway, these people voted for everyone not like them to lose their human rights, down to not allowing them to exist while queer or be born in the country to immigrant parents. And so when they lose them too, yea it’s pretty funny. They are getting what they asked for, including the cruelty they cheered on and/or brushed aside, and are crying about it because they aren’t the big strong tough guys they fantasize about being.
In a post-scarcity society, no one should have to work. But, if there is scarcity, I don’t believe those with less-working-time should (important EDIT) NOT be forced to provide for those with more-working-time.
I do think government-organized retirement is a good thing, but I don’t feel it is a human right.
I didn’t say that. I think healthcare in the U.S. is woeful, and hardly anything that is a human right is provided as a right. And, we should massively expand the availability of healthcare.
I did imply there are some medical procedures that I don’t believe are human rights. Depending on who I’m talking to, we might even disagree whether a procedure is medical or not. Some people swear by their chiropractors or essential oil treatments.
@bss03 @DicksAndPizza come to india and say this , everyone ll say lol
Now here’s the really fun question: why are you only just now hearing about this?
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Just do your best to keep your country from joining us. The AfD sure seems to be gaining speed like our tea party did.
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My dude, that was the genesis of the first Nazi party. Nazis weren’t monsters that crawled out of some portal to Hell, they were people.
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honestly not sure how you didn’t know about any of this stuff, it was like, a huge deal.
As an American, I can tell you this is my first time seeing this… and I actively seek out information. Just joined lemm.ee and it’s already paying off.
if you literally did as much as google “trump document case” and find like, the wiki page, these would’ve been on it. There’s an entire timeline page for the documents case iirc.
In their defense, trump & co were doing their absolute best to flood the media cycle with outrageous shit at the time to intentionally overshadow all of this, and the media was following him like rabid puppies.
It wasn’t that hard to miss the details of this at the time unless you were obsessively following the stories in side channels (like me), sifting through the bullshit and going down rabbit holes and reading 800 page court filings, and that could fuck up your mental health. Many people didn’t have the time or capacity for that.
This all happened at the same time as the inquiry into J6, too, which itself was an unprecedented and massive story, overshadowing much of the other treason.
That whole time period was mentally exhausting. I’m saddened and frustrated many people missed the importance of this story, but I do understand.
These pic were common knowledge during his trial, i saw them everywhere
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not being american certainly checks out.
Not familiar with the bundestag debate, more so concerned about every single action the US executive branch taking being entirely illegal and having no standing at all, myself.
what was the republican defense on this one? i dont remeber. wasnt it just like a stab back like “hunters laptop though!”
Hunter’s laptop, Hillary’s emails again, but it was mostly that Biden had some documents, too. Trump shouted that all presidents do this, and that what Biden had was worse, and his followers believed that without looking into any context (like all Biden had was some memos, copies of personal notes, etc, and that Biden immediately turned everything over and invited the feds to his home to look for more).
The scale was nowhere near the same, Biden hadn’t intentionally removed classified documents or tried to keep them from the feds, but none of that mattered. Trump saying he was entitled to the documents because everyone else did it was enough for his followers.
Please tell me this is fake…
Sadly, it is real.
e: and in case anyone reading this doesn’t get the implication, notice where the only power outlet in this room is (the white cable leading across the ceiling and along the piping to the office printer, which is the whitish thing at the right of this photo).
It’s basically the only thing besides boxes of documents in this storage room. It was plugged in and being used, not stored. This is so much worse than the toilet photo, yet everyone I show this to hasn’t seen it.
e2: Oh, and don’t forget, this was the ‘holdout’ room, to which maintenance supposedly ‘lost’ the key the first couple of times the feds showed up, then right when they got their ‘no, really’ warrant, it was supposedly flooded by a faulty pool pump. That’s this room. Fuck, in all the insanity, I’d forgot that last bit.
Oh god the printer is just horribly blatant. Are convenient floods a big issue in that area?
This was in Florida so actually yes.
Also, the boxes are still there. After the case was dismissed when he got reelected, they returned everything.
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Ahhhh… I see Trump and just assume it’s lies, but fair enough if floods happen there. And that’s depressing.
Yes, but this wasn’t a natural flood: it was caused by the in-ground pool next to this basement room, apparently because of an ‘error’ made by a maintenance person the same day they learnt about the warrant.
It affected this room (you can see some moisture on the floor and staining on the nearest box) plus, crucially, the server room adjacent, in a clear attempt to destroy their digital storage. It was called out in the court documents.
This wasn’t a natural flood, and was suspiciously convenient.
What an incredible coincidence that there was a suspiciously convenient flood at that time in that room 🙄
Yes that’s one of the actual pictures from the indictment they brought against him. He apparently had like 300 different documents of varying levels of classified status. There’s a couple more iirc of different places like a bedroom and a ballroom stage too. Basically it seems like he had his goons just hide anything he could get his hands on in random boxes of what were supposed to be just irrelevant personal effects
He was only indicted specifically for like 30 of them but my understanding is they specifically chose ones they were willing to have potentially entirely exposed.
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Yep, even crazier, half of the American people thought it was ok and re elected him.
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In my eyes, if you didn’t vote against him, you voted for him.
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People are always surprised at the answer to this question. People are really, really, really, ridiculously stupid.
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Mathematically, that is the case.
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I absolutely believe that the Both Sides Are The Same idea is really, really stupid. How dumb do you have to be to believe that HitlerPig was going to be better at anything than Harris, or any other Democrat for that matter. Or even any other human. He is literally the most prolific traitor in American history, a definitive pyschopath, and hopelessly ignorant in the most basic things.
The problem was that when it came to the Gaza issue, they both WERE kind of the same. Whichever one you voted for might pay some lip service to the genocide, but they were both going to continue to send weapons, bombs, and money to Israel to continue it. Under HitlerPig, it won’t end until the Gaza Strip is cleared out, and Kushner is building luxury resorts, hotels, and condos.
Under Harris, there would be a lot more scolding, but it wouldn’t have slowed the flow of weapons one bit. In the end, Gaza would still be emptied, and Kushner would still be creating the Jewish Dubai.
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“half” is not really correct; I know that’s not the point though.
The American people collectively had the power to prevent this, and collectively chose not to. Fortunately for me (an American), collective punishment is a war crime, for now.
It’s insane that he’s not in prison.
It’s insane that he’s not dead.
multiple people tried. The only people on the right I think I have forgiven. They actually beloved what they were sold.
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Money doesn’t buy taste, as you learn pretty quick after seeing enough rich people houses.
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Buddy, like what you like but most Maseratis I see are pretty boring and some can even feel tacky. And why are so many of them matte black, the tackiest finish? Maseratis definitely sound incredible, though.
Porsches like the 911 are also designed to be sports cars before anything else and even then I still like ‘em. Some came out a little strange for sure but for the most part they’re great.
“We’re the party of anti-elites!” “Also we use maid-cleaned bathrooms for document storage, keeping them right under the chandelier.”
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no the entire archival institute that had to dig up this shit (because it was missing) which he then lied about giving back, trump then got subpoenaed for lying about it.
Yeah no this is literally a criminal conspiracy as far as the government is concerned.