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  1. Kansas Attorney General Kris Kobach joined a lawsuit because Kansas is likely to lose congressional representation to states with larger noncitizen populations.
  2. Advocates say the census count needs to be as accurate as possible. Not counting noncitizens would be a mistake, they warn.
  3. Ohio, West Virginia and Louisiana have also joined the lawsuit.
  • Cort@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Except that’s not how the Constitution is currently written:

    . . . shall be determined by . . . the whole Number of free Persons . . .

    It doesn’t mention citizens for apportionment.

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      2 days ago

      Then they have a higher hurdle to clear. All I’m saying is it seems reasonable to give a state representation based on the number of citizens.

      I got curious about the size of the issue. The numbers I found for Texas was an estimated 1.6 million illegal immigrants out of a total population of 30.5 million, or roughly 5%. There are 38 reps from Texas, so they’d lose one or two.

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        And I’m saying it’s NOT reasonable to only count citizens.

        Since you’re curious, in 2022 Texas had 3 million non citizen legal permanent residents (green card holders) that’s about twice as many as the number of people immigrating illegally.

        All the green card holders came here legally and followed all the rules, but you’re wanting to force them to have taxation without representation? That’s fucking absurd and un-american.

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          2 days ago

          Neither illegal immigrants, nor non-citizen residents get to vote. In what sense are they represented in either case?

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            2 days ago

            Neither do children, and yet they’re still taxed. And non citizens do get to vote in some elections.

            To actually answer your question tho, they vote with their feet. If the representative in their area isn’t doing what they want, they can move which reduces the population count for apportionment. Your proposal removes that little bit of leverage legal immigrants have to affect change.