https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/16tqihd/settings_updateschanges_to_ad_personalization/
Reddit just decided it was a good idea to REMOVE the option to disable ad personalisation. Good job u/spez. We know what you’re doing.
Neat, so they are monetising your activities on the plattform. Isn’t that great?
Corporate does corporate things.
Oh, okay. I had no idea. I was like “How far do I have to scroll to find out what reddit did this time?”
Wouldn’t affect me anyway, because I use an ad blocker.
This really doesn’t sound legal.
Why are these people still there, do they just stick around on reddit to complain about it?
Because other people are there
I think the average person is not willing to take 5 minutes to figure out how Kbin or Lemmy works.
Kbin, at least, for the end user is just as simple as reddit.
Before I left Reddit, I searched for alternatives and saw that people recommended Lemmy or Kbin. But I didn’t know what those things were. I assumed they were just Reddit clones hosted by someone else. I didn’t know that I could create an account on Kbin and interact with other posts in the Fediverse. I didn’t even know what the Fediverse was. So I was stuck with this decision of “do I try Lemmy or Kbin first?”
When I decided to try Lemmy, the first thing you need to do is sign up on an instance. People recommended beehaw.org, but that required filling out an application to join. That seems weird, since I never had to apply to read Reddit. I decided to try another instance (sh.itjust.works) but was worried that I was missing out on what people had recommended about other instances. Maybe I chose the wrong one? Maybe I should make an account on Lemmy.world instead?
It took me a little while to grasp the concept of federation and realize that it made no difference as an end user which instance I chose. I stuck with it, as did everyone reading this, but I think it’s fair to say that the average person has similar barriers to entry. We’ve overcome them, but many, many people will not.
True, the concept of the fediverse is probably what confuses people, it’s never explained clearly. I hope it’s growth helps spread information about it, how it works and why you want it.
I think fediverse people are wildly overestimating how much 99% of Reddit users care about this. The mod team on r/futurology (I’m one of them) set up a fediverse site just over a month ago (here you go - https://futurology.today/ ) It’s been modestly successful so far, but the vast majority of subscribers seem to be coming from elsewhere in the fediverse, not migrants from Reddit.
This is despite the fact we’ve permanently stickied a post to the top of the sub. r/futurology has over 19 million subscribers, and yet the fediverse is only attracting a tiny trickle of them. I doubt most people on Reddit even know what the word fediverse means.
People who would leave a site like Reddit because of a principled stance often mistakenly believe that the rest of society cares as deeply as they. Spoiler: society mostly doesn’t care; at least, not enough to go out of their way to change anything.
There are a lot of people that are actually too dumb to change platforms and assume apps like Reddit are the actual internet.
My father had a doctorate of engineering. He was a brilliant man. When I saw him search for Google and then follow the search link to google.com, to then search on their home page, I started to tell him he should search from the address / search field in his browser. He was instantly becoming confused and so I said, “nevermind,” because his way got him satisfactory results so why bother. Some people aren’t dumb at all. They just don’t care about the same things you or I mighty enough to learn them (beyond basics).
I’m technically from elsewhere in the fediverse, but I’m also a Reddit migrant (back in June). Thank you for setting the community up, I’ve missed it from Reddit days
It’s also likely that most visitors don’t go to the sub directly so the stickied post is easily missed
IIRC stickies are also excluded from feed once they get this attribute.
But yeah, we don’t even understand what a barrier switching to fediverse sites is for regular joes, jemmas and jermas. Like, for many people the internet is suggested apps’ feed and, rarely, their browser’s default start page. They don’t choose anything, and why would they? And here we are, challenging them to do something on intent while they are pretty happy with what they have now.
and why would they? … they are pretty happy with what they have now.
Exactly. Only a very small number of people are motivated as the pioneers who’ve setup the fediverse now are. Again looking at this through the lens of r/futurology & our fediverse site. Why would a user also want to go to a second version of the exact same thing, but way, way smaller.
My hunch is that long-term the fediverse will prosper. Reddit still isn’t too bad even with these changes, at least not compared to what an absolute shithole Twitter has become.
But people who care about making it bigger, should be asking themselves hard questions - this meme comes across as very complacent & out of touch, if many people really believe the sentiments it’s expressing.
Even the head mod of piracy subreddit was ousted from the subreddit for attempting to migrate the sub to a lemmy instance, and the redditors that remain there actually cheered! It’s wild, you would expect pirates, who always at risk of having their subreddit shut down, would understand the need to migrate.
The quality of content in /r/piracy is shit nowadays when compared to [email protected]
Americans confused at what month “27” is
I’m American and confused by what the 2023 day is. YYYYMMDD ftw
ISO8601 all day, every day
50-50 shot lemmy devolves into a fascist hellsite
Don’t forget to donate to your chosen instances to keep them going.
Self-hosters donating to themselves
I really hope that reddit will shut down
no, it won’t, nor will xitter of facebook. it’s delusional to think multi-billion-dollar-platforms backed by big money, the content industry and several clandestine consortiums will cease operation because a single digit percentage of users decided that some hobbyist internet platforms held together by tape and a hail marry are the future. we’ll be lucky if places like this are still around in a few years.
As I removed everything from all my Reddit accounts and deleted them, except my porn account for some nieche fetishes, I don’t care. Let it die and save the porn.
@ZWho63 Can I comment lemmy posts from mastodon?
Apparently American Reddit has been plastered with ads from a billion-dollar Evangelical Christian campaign for months and Jewish, LGBT amd atheist users have been especially targeted
Religion and Politics were categories you could not opt out of
Just migrated from Reddit to Lemmy. This was my final straw.
When Boost for Lemmy went live, I didn’t even hesitate to uninstall Reddit.
The best part is, the normies are probably going to stay on read it no matter what. Meeting we can have a picture of what the internet must have been like before the endless September, now that’s a boomer ass reference if anyone ever heard one.
It will be like that, plus political posts.
Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.
And they never think you mean them when you ask them to stop, becuse then other team is evil, and inserting their political opinions in to everything is their personality now. It’s tut only way they can get them likes.
Social media changed society and sadly, I don’t think escaping to the Fediverse can out run the political borest.
Because people are addicted to spreading their political opinions like evangelists of old.
Luckily that only generally seems to be Americans. So if you could all kindly tag yourselves in your profiles as such it would make it a lot easier to filter. /s
Sure, there’s always some low-level background muttering about politics in other countries, but the USA has really taken the cult of personality/political party to it’s absolute max.
Looking from the outside in, I pin the beginnings of this on the pledge of allegiance. Indoctrinated a whole bunch of young boomers into the idea that the USA was at the pinnacle of society, and once you blindly believe that, your eyes are closed to the actual issues. Rinse and repeat for a few generations and here we are, watching a country tear itself apart via a political system stained with polarisation, bias and narcissism.
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I saw one that said they would stay until Reddit charges a fee to use the site…like why are they staying??? JUST FUCKING LEAVE
One even said “there are no viable alternatives” when talking about Reddit, like excuse me what the fuck?
I’ll probably get hate, but the content just isn’t there. I tried using Lemmy as my main, but most of the communities I’d follow on Reddit just weren’t on here, and if they were, they would have a couple hundred of subscribers at most, and there would be 7 different versions of the same community on different instances with no way to measure quality at first glance. Lemmy thrives for geeky hobbies that surround the FOSS space that gave birth to it, so communities like Linux or Unixporn have a strong enough presence, but for pretty much anything else it’s just not there yet. Is this a negative feedback loop? Yes, but there isn’t much to be done about it until shit REALLY hits the fan
PD: As an added, Lemmy can get incredibly circle-jerky at times, even more so than Reddit already is. Like seriously at times 90% of the content on my feed is just shitting on Reddit plebs
There aren’t viable alternatives. We don’t have the active niche (and not so niche) communities reddit does. And even if there was somehow a meaningful mass exodus, these little instances would break like wet toilet paper trying to hold a bowling ball.
I don’t say this to be critical of lemmy. I’m happy here. Just being realistic.
Yeah we don’t need to be like reddit. I’m happy if rss usage becomes stronger . So those niche communities can stay wherever they can thrive but still be reachable through rss.
All these users are suffering there but none of them seem to be considering…. Leaving
I think because they are uninformed. They are looking for alternatives, and don’t know about Lemmy, or don’t understand Lemmy, etc.
Unfortunately, to understand lemmy is to be on lemmy. You have to be here and experience it.
They have to make that leap of faith. There’s nothing to lose anyway, there’s no requirement to delete reddit to become a lemmy user. So what’s holding them back. Mauve they believe the anti lemmy post on reddit or maybe they just say they want to leave reddit but has no real desire to follow through.
What a shame. Imagine if all those users were aware about the Fediverse
