Everything you need to know about the ‘one million march for children’ to stop the ‘indoctrination of children in public schools’

  • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I learned at a young age that hating someone is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die.

    I feel the same disdain towards someone who would suggest we eradicate people because of their skin color or ethnic background as I do towards someone that would suggest that we eradicate people because of their political views.

    The difference being, I have never encountered anyone in real life or on Lemmy who would openly admit to being a nazi, whereas I have never spent an hour on Lemmy without seeing someone who thinks its okay to unironically say, “kill conservatives” or “eat rich people” receive overwhelming positive votes.

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        1 year ago

        Guilty as charged or at least close enough.

        Like most centrists, many of my views are not really in the center but I think it is necessary in a democracy to find a middle ground between the extremes.

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      1 year ago

      The difference being, I have never encountered anyone in real life or on Lemmy who would openly admit to being a nazi

      You guys never do.

      • Nahvi@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Now for your turn. Do you hate leftists that shame your stance by promoting genocide?

        • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          I hate anyone who promotes genocide. It’s why I hate nazis.

          Conservatism and wealth are neither immutable characteristics nor cultures. You have provided zero examples of leftists calling for genocide.

          Then again, your definition of “bigotry” is selective enough that you only consider people to be bigots if they don’t like bigots. Who knows how bonkers and contrary to reality your definition of “genocide” is?

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            1 year ago

            I hate anyone who promotes genocide.

            Then we should be on similar sides of this argument.

            Does it really needed to be pointed out that Conservatism in the West is based on religious and cultural characteristics? Or are we just going to pretend that most Western conservatives aren’t Protestants?

            your definition of “bigotry” is selective enough that you only consider people to be bigots if they don’t like bigots

            How odd, that doesn’t sound anything like what I posted earlier. Not something I wrote mind you, just the first thing that came up when I web-searched “bigot”. It is almost like you are making up a fake argument, that is easy to defeat, and then pretending I said something like it. If only there was a name for that sort of thing. S…st…straw… I will give you hint, it isn’t strawberry.

            Here is the exact quote I posted earlier:

            bigot - bĭg′ət - noun - One who is strongly partial to one’s own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

            If you are getting something significantly different than that when you look up bigot, you might try using something other than Google; it has a tendency to reinforce one’s own biases.

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              Does it really needed to be pointed out that Conservatism in the West is based on religious and cultural characteristics?

              Conservatism itself is not a religion. There are plenty of conservative atheists and non-conservative religious institutions. Don’t try to co-opt religion just to pretend that your political views are a culture.

              The only portion of the definition of “bigot” you care about is the portion you bolded. Which you’re using as a proxy for “people who hold political views that are rooted in bigotry.”

              I’m glad lemmy is hostile to bigots. I hope that never changes.

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                1 year ago

                There are plenty of conservative atheists

                I have no doubt that there are some conservative atheists, but let’s not pretend that they represent anything other than an extreme minority of self-identified conservatives.

                Don’t try to co-opt religion just to pretend that your political views are a culture.

                I will let Wikipedia do the talking here.

                Conservatism is a cultural, social, and political philosophy that seeks to promote and to preserve traditional institutions, customs, and values.

                the portion you bolded.

                The bolded portion was the portion relevant to the conversation, and relevant to Lemmy in general. Even if what you are saying was true and that was all I cared about, it wouldn’t mean OC wasn’t being bigoted.

                I’m glad lemmy is hostile to bigots.

                If Lemmy was hostile to all bigots instead of just conservative bigots, someone else would have called out OC as a bigot. After picking my jaw up off the floor, I would have upvoted then moved on.

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          1 year ago

          Genocide now?

          Genocide is the intent to destroy members of a specific nationality, religion, ethnicity, or race.

          Your hyperbole in this thread is a testament to the comments pointing out that conservatives don’t engage with reason.

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            1 year ago

            If we are going to say that most conservatives are white protestants then yes it sounds like a fair term to use.

            Though even if we decide it is the wrong term, calling for the eradication of large parts of the population based on religious, cultural and a political affiliation is still abhorrent.