Same WTF done with internet today children shouldn’t be in prison period and should have been immediately not give them until the 15th so they can continue to be cruel to them or time to appeal his decision.
You sure af don’t throw them into adult prison with zero access to schooling, no counseling, and punishments like being locked in solitary for days on end. Not unless you WANT to ensure they stay criminals.
I agree with you overall, but they are not “in adult prison” - they’re in a separate section, fenced off from the rest of the prison. LA juvenile facilities have been in disrepair for years, and the kids often riot and wreck shit (I would too if I were in their situation, so I’m not judging), but that means the normal facilities often aren’t suitable either. They’re basically renting space from Angola.
We just had some major prison reforms, but we still need a lot of changes to the juvenile system.
So again, what do you do with them when they have committed further violent attacks against other teens that are trying to get better?
I’m not defending the conditions, but saying stupid shit like “wHy ArE kIdS iN pRiSoN aNyWaY” is dumb. Because they committed violent crimes. That’s why.
You do not put children in adult prison. It doesn’t have the facilities for counseling or education to help them.
You’re acting like they aren’t still minors and we should just give up on them because they’re violent instead of trying to rehabilitate them.
And also, we have no idea if these teenagers were put into jail for violent crimes. There’s nothing saying that in the article. You’ve just decided it out of nowhere and set up a straw man.
No I read other articles about it. Including one from last year when they were first moved out of juvvie.
Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, announced the decision to move the teens to the Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola on July 19 after a series of chaotic fights, injuries and breakouts from the Bridge City Center for Youth near New Orleans, including an alleged carjacking by an escaped teen during which a man was shot. Residents in the surrounding community say they’re living in fear and have called for the facility to be shut down.
These are extremely violent teens committing serious violent crimes. After already being in juvvie.
So again, what do you do with extremely violent criminals that break out of juvenile facilities and commit attempted murder and carjacking while they’re on the escape?
You move the violent ones to a facility that can handle violent criminals and keep the ones that want to rehabilitate in a normal juvenile facility.
Why do you keep responding to “So what DO we do?” by just repeating what we shouldn’t do?
Sure you can make the assumption that what they did shouldn’t have put them in prison, but the legal system did come to that assumption. And you have to either resolve the reason or resolve the solution, you can’t just ignore both.
All of them WERE in juvenile detention already. They were moved out after committing further violent acts against other juveniles.
So again, what do you do with violent teenagers that have already had a chance in a normal juvenile detention center and committed further violent crimes while there?
Can you provide a source on that? Also, you can provide a social worker or professional counselor at the very least. Which this prison promised to do and failed to deliver.
Following a slew of alarming headlines about violence, mismanagement and frequent escapes from Louisiana’s juvenile lockups, the state’s governor offered a new solution last week: temporarily moving teens to the notorious Angola prison for adults.
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Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, announced the decision to move the teens to the Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola on July 19 after a series of chaotic fights, injuries and breakouts from the Bridge City Center for Youth near New Orleans, including an alleged carjacking by an escaped teen during which a man was shot. Residents in the surrounding community say they’re living in fear and have called for the facility to be shut down.
At a news conference, Edwards stressed that the Angola move is temporary, aimed at reducing the population at the troubled Bridge City until more secure youth facilities can be built or renovated. The state has too many teens in its care to consider closing Bridge City entirely, he said.
It was roughly 25 kids in juvenile detention already that were too violent for the facility they were in, including breaking out and shooting someone.
Same WTF done with internet today children shouldn’t be in prison period and should have been immediately not give them until the 15th so they can continue to be cruel to them or time to appeal his decision.
What else do you do with violent teenagers that commit robberies and other violent crimes?
All of the teens at Angola were moved there after they committed more violent incidents in other juvenile centers or escaped.
You sure af don’t throw them into adult prison with zero access to schooling, no counseling, and punishments like being locked in solitary for days on end. Not unless you WANT to ensure they stay criminals.
Which they do because they use them for slave labor at Angola
I agree with you overall, but they are not “in adult prison” - they’re in a separate section, fenced off from the rest of the prison. LA juvenile facilities have been in disrepair for years, and the kids often riot and wreck shit (I would too if I were in their situation, so I’m not judging), but that means the normal facilities often aren’t suitable either. They’re basically renting space from Angola.
We just had some major prison reforms, but we still need a lot of changes to the juvenile system.
So again, what do you do with them when they have committed further violent attacks against other teens that are trying to get better?
I’m not defending the conditions, but saying stupid shit like “wHy ArE kIdS iN pRiSoN aNyWaY” is dumb. Because they committed violent crimes. That’s why.
You do not put children in adult prison. It doesn’t have the facilities for counseling or education to help them.
You’re acting like they aren’t still minors and we should just give up on them because they’re violent instead of trying to rehabilitate them.
And also, we have no idea if these teenagers were put into jail for violent crimes. There’s nothing saying that in the article. You’ve just decided it out of nowhere and set up a straw man.
No I read other articles about it. Including one from last year when they were first moved out of juvvie.
These are extremely violent teens committing serious violent crimes. After already being in juvvie.
So again, what do you do with extremely violent criminals that break out of juvenile facilities and commit attempted murder and carjacking while they’re on the escape?
You move the violent ones to a facility that can handle violent criminals and keep the ones that want to rehabilitate in a normal juvenile facility.
Why do you keep responding to “So what DO we do?” by just repeating what we shouldn’t do?
Sure you can make the assumption that what they did shouldn’t have put them in prison, but the legal system did come to that assumption. And you have to either resolve the reason or resolve the solution, you can’t just ignore both.
Juvenile detention like any fucking sane place, dorkus.
All of them WERE in juvenile detention already. They were moved out after committing further violent acts against other juveniles.
So again, what do you do with violent teenagers that have already had a chance in a normal juvenile detention center and committed further violent crimes while there?
Can you provide a source on that? Also, you can provide a social worker or professional counselor at the very least. Which this prison promised to do and failed to deliver.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/louisiana-sending-youth-angola-prison-rcna39150
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It was roughly 25 kids in juvenile detention already that were too violent for the facility they were in, including breaking out and shooting someone.
Thanks for the additional context! Sounds like Louisiana has an issue with prison management at both adult and juvenile detention centers
I’ve found there is an overwhelming amount of loud morons in these communities. This is thread has been no different. The downvotes speak volumes.
The demographics here appear to lean heavily towards people with zero awareness of the world outside their bubble with zero curiosity to expand it.