22 years? Yeah that is disheartening.
There are several states in the South and Midwest that possession of marijuana can land you life in prison. That’s potentially a 70 year sentence for a young adult.
Yet these jackasses can attempt to overthrow the US Government and install an unelected dictator and the longest sentence we’ve seen yet is only 22 fucking years?
Yeah it is disheartening to see the hundreds that got off with house arrest, probation, or even at best landed behind bars for only a year or so.
Can’t believe the sentencing for weed is still so strong. Like who gives a fuck, just legalize the shit already. I think that most of us can agree that alcohol has just as much of not more potential for harm than weed does and that’s legal.
Not only is alcohol legal, it was made legal again after its own failed prohibition.
Yes, but have you considered that if we legalize weed, Satan might get your kids?
/s
That’s because Jesus drank wine but did not smoke a joint.
Moses was burning that bush all night though
I agree. Christians should rethink interpretation of that passage.
Or maybe he did - who knows? I know there’s a burning bush in the Bible - maybe it was a metaphor for smoking that good stuff XD
Groups of people who like weed being illegal; Police unions, private prison owners, beer/wine/spirit producers, pharmaceutical companies, cartels, private rehab clinics
Anyone who tries to argue that weed is as or more dangerous that alcohol is not doing so in good faith.
Especially when in som part of the country it’s perfectly fine. So much for the united part
Also there’s the case of Chaya Raichik, who is now a star of the far-right…
Attempting a coup = not the good guy
It’s framing. For the next coup. Because there will be a next one. The Nazis didn’t win their first coup either.
Hitler was only sentenced to 5 years in prison despite being convicted of treason. He lived in comfort and wrote his famous book there.
The 60-day, nine-month, and time-served sentences make a mockery of justice and a tragedy of history. 20 years is about right if not a bit lenient for plotting what would have gotten someone hanged, drawn, and quartered at the time of our country’s founding.
Hitler was only sentenced to 5 years in prison despite being convicted of treason. He lived in comfort and wrote his famous book there.
Just to add on to that. He served 9 months and was released on good behaviour. A reminder he spent those 9 months writing a manifesto that promoted genocide. I hope we can learn from history.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tweet-echo-mein-kampf/
it seems that we are learning from something
If they think attempting a coup is being the good guy, I actually hope they become “bad guys”.
It depends tho. Overthrowing an authoritarian is usually considered a good thing. But mostly, it only depends on the success of the coup. Successful coup = we were heroes. Unsuccessful coup = they were traitors.
Unless it succeeds. Most Mericans today think the revolutionaries are heros cuz freedom, but at the time there were plenty of people who were against splitting from England. Now this is more like being a Confederate sympathiser, and that tracks perfectly.
Loyalists have entered the chat
Smashes a Capitol policeman with the riot shield you stole off of him. We are the good guys!
Can you imagine the timeline if she were VP?
It’s hard enough for me to imagine a timeline where she’s relevant.
Same here. It seems she just pops up every so often, says something stupid, then disappears again into the woodwork.
Makes me wonder who pays her to ‘pop up every so often’.
Unfortunately, people like Marj are and it’s possible that Marj is even worse than Palin.
I think McCain would have replaced her (if that’s even possible.)
The good guys don’t go to prison for attempting to overthrow the elected government
I wouldn’t make it a blanket statement like that. Maybe something like “good guys don’t go to prison for attempting to overthrow the elected government to replace them with a fascist government”. If a fascist government is elected, I’d consider the people trying to overthrow it the good guys.
Conservative women need to keep their mouth shut and stay in the kitchen. There are bible quotes on this. Every time they speak in public the only response should be
KJV: “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”
RSV: “I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent.”
GNB: “I do not allow them to teach or to have authority over men; they must keep quiet.”
I wanna see hundreds of replies to every tradwife politicians with these every time they speak and I wanna see reporters repeat these instead of asking questions. If they want rights and be treated with respect, ditch the religion and trad shit and join the rest of us in the future.
How about we start calling them out on all the foolish things the Bible forbids, but they ignore and do anyway such as:
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Wearing clothing made of blended fabrics - leviticus 19:19
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Wearing ripped or torn clothing - leviticus 10:6
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Eating shellfish - leviticus 11:10
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Eating pork - leviticus 11:4
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No short hair cuts, and no shaving beards - leviticus 19:27
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No tattoos or piercings - leviticus 19:28
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No alcohol in church - leviticus 10:9
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No working on the sabbath - leviticus 23:3
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No divorce - mark 10:9
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No wearing jewelry - timothy 2:9
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No lying - leviticus 19:11
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Don’t mistreat foreigners - leviticus 19:33-34
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Buying or selling land - leviticus 25:23
I could honestly do this all day as there are so very many things to write here, but I feel this is sufficient to demonstrate my point.
Don’t let these people use their faith as justification to be terrible humans until they follow every word “written” by their infallible god in their hypocritical self contradictory book that none of them have actually read.
That would take progressives to actually go on the offensive for once in their lives. It ain’t happening. We both know that.
Conservatives lead an endless charge to alway be on the attack. Always lash out at the media, lash out against Democrats, lash out at the big bad gob’ment.
Democrats aren’t willing to defend themselves if their own lives depended on it. And these days, that isn’t fiction anymore.
You’re taking Leviticus out of context! (Unless it’s about homosexuality, then it’s completely in context)
Evangelicals aren’t bound by the laws of the old testament, so most of your list has no bearing on them.
Oh yeah they love that argument. Then when you say “the New testament doesn’t mention homosexuality so it must be ok” they go right back to Leviticus.
They aren’t bound by the New Testament either, with all that ridiculous socialism from that Jewish hippie
They’re not, but a lot of their positions are justified by other things that sit right next to what Hazdaz listed.
To be fair, some of those restrictions were lifted in the new testament.
“It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” -Matthew 15:11
They don’t have any problem pulling from the Old Testament whenever it suits their bigotry.
the new testament
Wait a second, Omnipotent Man didn’t get it right on the first try? Something’s fishy here.
Ok, but should we still banish people from society if they have sex during a menstrual cycle as leviticus 20:18 commands?
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Scary, but true: There are conservative women who have gone on record saying they’d be OK with exactly this. And if you attempt to make this argument in front of a conservative, the only thing they’re going to hear is this: “The bible says that women must be silent. Therefore we also need to repeal women’s right to vote.”
Remember, this all started when some (probably nonexistent) trans kids in North Carolina wanted to use a different bathroom. Similar arguments were made and rather than the GOP come to their senses, they just kept doubling down and used it as a launch point for their culture wars. They basically answered every question like that with “We’ll ban that too!”
Why are Republicans calling people that directly attacked and killed people in the hallowed halls of the Capital building “the good guys”?
Because they’re tribal partisan hacks. The only thing they care about is them VS everyone else
You’re almost there. It’s because they’re liars (the politicians / boosters). Tribalism is reserved for their base. The leaders are cynical af.
You think Tucker is genuinely perplexed by the issues he talks about with interviewees? Don’t worry, that’s a rhetorical question. I know Lemmy users aren’t idiots. Just making a point.
Unfortunately, some Lemmy users are idiots. Had a discussion with a person who thinks unions are the worst thing to happen to workers, and would not understand that they’re the reason we have weekends. The person probably wants slaves.
I would have also accepted “because they’re on the take” or just one big “GRIFFFFFFFTER” as alternative answers.
The people who want to bring back slavery assume they won’t be the slaves. If they aren’t billionaires then they are making a big assumption.
These are the same dingbats that have made Ashli Babbitt a martyr (and have doxxed the man who shot her) and never can answer the question. Just what the f— was she even doing there that day?
Not one of the people that cry about her and pretend to be so very concerned about it can answer why she was even there. Of course, this is the same bunch that think killing someone over selling loose cigarettes (if they are Black) is NBD.
Sarah Palin has always been a fucking airhead, and fuck John McCain for legitimizing her airhead voice
Her greatest achievement was revitalizing Lisa Ann’s porn career.
The sad thing is McCain could have easily beat a black guy if he didn’t pick a woman as his running mate.
Maybe you mean this woman in particular.
I think they meant Obama was representing a kind of progress that McCain thought he needed to compete with but his base would have been happier if he had just said “fuck that shit” instead of trying to be a conservative version of woke.
It’s quite possible that McCain picking Sarah Palin as his running mate lost him more votes than it gained him for trying to be progressive.
I can imagine it losing him both the republican voters who dislike women and all the voters who simply dislike her.
I further believe that women voters while they do like representation they vote based on politics to a further degree.
Alternative headline: Sarah Palin thinks criminals are good guys
Only when they are white supremecists and accelerationists.
If you shoplift from a CVS, Palin wants will want your hands cut off.
Sarah Palin knows what’s going on, because she reads ALL THE PAPERS! /s
Non Violent!? They were calling for the hanging/execution of several politicians, with instructions and directions to go get them! 6 people DIED!!! Those that were truly non violent, got much more lenient penalties than the 17-22 years the leaders got.
Sarah Palin is batshit insane calling these people good guys.
She always has been. Picking her as a running mate just added to the decline of the gop
And look how they treated him at the end! As so many other things Republican, their behavior towards McCain lead by Trump was despicable.
But McCain had a shred of humanity and honor, and there is no place for that in the new GOP.
When McCain chose her I remember thinking, “They’ve thrown out the last of the few principles they had. The nutjobs will be the new GOP norm”.
IIRC, McCain didn’t even want her on the ticket, but he did go along with it–embracing the crazy to try and get more votes. There were many missteps that led to today’s chaos, but I always felt this was a big turning point.
It says something it didn’t even register on me that Palin isn’t Boebert at first
She’s the OG Qbert.
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Wait, The “Good Guys” were not the capital police fighting to protect Congress and the constitutional procedure taking place? The capital police who stood up to the deadly mob worked up by Trump and aimed at senators doing the work of the constitution…they were not the “Good Guys”?
Palin is wrong and not a “good guy”.
Palin is encouraging bad people to be worse and she almost certainly knows it.
At this point, fuck it.
You’re right Sarah! You are the good guys, and there is just no point. Might as well stop trying to over throw the government and terrorizing marginalized communities. Even voting. It’s a lost cause. The deep state will come after you for interfering with their plans, so just stay home. Protest the system by being quiet and not participating.
Stop voting sheeple. Your vote won’t be counted anyways cause of the deep state. /s
They can all get fucked along with you, Sarah.
Imagine thinking Sarah Palin was someone whose thoughts were worth more than the wretched air they’re made of.
“Patriots” don’t try overthrowing the government.
Ehhhhhhh technically not true in a pretty important way. BUT, “patriots” sure as shit don’t try to overturn the valid results of a democratic election functioning exactly as it should. The word for that is “traitor”.
Let’s all gather around and listen to the dumb ass who is consistently wrong about everything.
the dumb ass who is consistently wrong about everything
You’ll need to be more specific.
What’s the point
Chin up, gents, you’ll get to smear feces on the capitol walls next time