Fuck that leaky browser. Asshole development.
Yet people keep recommending products by this scummy company and pile on Firefox for slightest missteps.
Mozilla should be scrutinized, even if Firefox is currently the best option.
I think the only thing keeping them inline is loud community backlash everytime they make one of those misssteps.
I think everyone should be held to the same standard. We can yell at Firefox a bit less. We should yell at Brave a lot more.
People dont seem to be scrutinizing though. Its genuinely unhinged and often completely misinformed. They will jump on a single line of a legal text and use it to springboard into a world of scenarios even when Mozilla is saying its not true.
It doesnt help improve the product it just makes people think all products are bad and fallback to whatever the comfortable majority is which is chrome.
Who cares it’s a corporation, it doesn’t have feelings. Anything to keep these corpos in line.
Sometimes corporations lie.
It’s not being unhinged to say you don’t like something. And the way that Mozilla is embracing “AI” is not welcomed.
best
least worst
They removed the paw, they are worse than Chrome! I’m going to use an alternative version that cannot exist without the main project to teach them a lesson!
Can we agree that Brave:
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Is scummy.
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Has a shady ceo, and a shady history.
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Is possibly a security risk.
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Is still orders of magnitude better than using Google Chrome.
And that:
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This headline is both true and clickbait-ish.
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You can turn these things off in Brave’s settings, for free.
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That doesn’t make this feature not scummy.
Basically no one should be using Brave, but no one should be using Google Chrome either, yet here we are.
And the revolving door of “best unabandoned Chromium fork to use” (Helium for the moment, or Ungoogled Chromium if you don’t mind some broken features, just to name two), is buried under so much SEO that it’s legitimately difficult to research.
So… I’m not gonna go out of my way to flame Brave users. If they’re trying to do better than Chrome, good! Not-Google is good. They can pay for this I guess. I’m not installing Brave, though, I’m not recommending it, and this certainly isn’t making me want to.
use vivaldi if you want a chromium browser. its very customizable
Vivaldi concerns me a little, because I keep catching them trying to replace web addresses for major retailers with what appear to be affiliate links. For example, if I start typing the address for Amazon (I know, shitty company, but it’s the first page that comes to mind) it will pop up an auto complete to click on. If I click it, I can see that I’m redirected to Amazon through what appears to be either an affiliate or a tracking link. However, if I type the address fully in the browser and don’t use auto complete it takes me straight to Amazon, no redirecting or strange links popping up first. They do not disclose that they are doing this anywhere that I have found and I think it’s shady as fuck. I don’t have any extensions installed and it happens on multiple devices (phone, laptop, PC) and only on Vivaldi, so it’s definitely the browser and not an untrustworthy extension or a compromised device.
Catch it and report it
Report it to who? Vivaldi?
The affiliate program. This is fraud.
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Reminds me of a joke:
My dad always warned us about Septic Tank Steve, and that we should never pay him to do anything, and we should have listened. One day Steve came by and said if we gave him a nickel, he’d swim around in the septic tank. We thought that was hilarious, so we gave him a nickel, and he swam around the tank a while. Then he came and sat next to us on the porch and said “If you want me to leave, gimme $100.”
The bad news is, if you’re not on Team Tux, you’re going to have to pay $60 for Brave Origin. Granted, you only need to buy it once, and you’ll get unlimited activations across all of your devices.
It’s amazing people still believe this BS.
They’ll probably hold to it for that exact product. If they rebrand it and add it back, that’s no longer the same thing you paid for ;)
Brave lets people use Origin for free if they’re on Linux
lol
I feel like if you’re writing the sentence “an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave […] without its extra features,” you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.
Brave has always been a joke. And Brave users will always be a joke. And anyone who’s ever simped for Brave will always be a moron.
Rude. But not inaccurate. Brave pretends to be better than Chrome and Google, but also Mozilla and Firefox at the same time, though Firefox has always done it better and has never contributed to the chromium monopoly. Greed over diversification of the Web and competition between browser engines to effect real change. The least Brave could do is make their own engine.
Rude. But not inaccurate.
Eh, I use it for watching youtube.
For some reason (likely youtube fighting my adblockers) I get tons of errors and issues with youtube on firefox. But Brave works alright, and also blocks the ads. So it’s my dedicated youtube browser.
never had issues with firefox and ublock origin and youtube and whatever and neither on android, linux, windows or whatsoever. guess i am just not dumb enough
Use LibreWolf instead. Fuck Brave.
I don’t mind paying a fee for a browser. It’s a lot of development time and I use it a lot. But not like this, and not brave.
I donated to firefox and mozilla until i leanred about the payment of the CEO. I will die on the firefox hill but the company has to change.
Are brave and Plex related?
No, but brave “shields”, aka pre installed but shittier unlock origin, can sometimes break plex or other sites that require certain things that could look like trackers
I meant because Plex also added so much extra shitty shit that I never asked for and couldn’t remove, so I moved to jellyfin
I read the article.
But also I’m out of the loop on why ppl hate Brave. Can someone clue me in?
Is there a better cross-platform browser? I like to use the same one across devices.
They hate the politics of one of the developers.
Edit: wtf. I’ve gotten downvoted to oblivion in the past for simply mentioning that Brave search has its own search index. Now I try to pass along the message of those downvoters and I get downvoted again.
Zen is just preselected no telemetry Firefox, also bleeding edge with Firefox updates
Brave is fine ish but they have issues, and a lot of them, which they usually fix within 24 hours but they’ve had a track record of like 8-10 issues per year, so just under once a month.
Don’t downvote me to hell cause it’s a reddit link, sorry, this is the most concise list I know of: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/AErPH6iMl0
Brave is the only browser I’m aware of whose “issues” rise to the level of “we’re going to hijack your URL bar and insert our own affiliate links”
Apparently it was an auto complete issue that was fixed within 48 hours, but even still, there’s always something wrong with Brave multiple times a year
Imagine actually believing that lol
Of course it was fucking intentional, they just got caught
I said “apparently” lol. It was still a brave referral link they got money from, so i have no doubt it wasn’t a mistake
Brave thinks its users are suckers
To be fair…most of the general population are indeed suckers.
To be fair, brave users are suckers
Its founder and CEO thinks that gay people shouldn’t have rights, too.
You don’t need to pay anything if you go to the settings and disable them one by one. Brave is the best browser out there and only browser I have used since 2019.
Brave was founded by a known homophobe who donated to Anti-LGBT projects and that was figure in the Covid - conspiracy circles . It is known to have injected stuff into their clients data, e.g. affiliate links, has leaked Tor data, etc.
It is by far the most shady and bad major browser.
Brother, chrome been anticonsumwr all their life. The Firefox has been selling data for third party players, edge has been used to train AI models…what are you even on?
LibreWolf.
You don’t need to pay anything to eat this delicious succulent meal, as long as you pick out the maggots first.
I just switched to Brave because I was tired of Chrome stealing all my data and it seemed like a better browser from a privacy standpoint. I like it so far. Now I’m seeing all this hate about brave lol. I’m convinced Lemmy will hate everything I’m doing, no matter what that thing is
