President Trump said he would talk to Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney about making Canada the 51st state. But the president said he didn’t expect it to get to the point of using military force — though he wouldn’t commit to the same for Greenland.
“Something could happen with Greenland, I’ll be honest,” Trump said in an interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that aired on Sunday. He said that “we need that for national and international security,” but he added “I don’t see it with Canada. I just don’t see it.”
Reminder to the military: you are not required to follow illegal orders. In fact, you are duty-bound to disobey them
I’m quite positive, whether he invades a sovereign nation or not, in some time – be it five years, ten, or more – we’ll have our own version of the Nuremberg trials. Whoever is still alive that perpetrated or participated in this rape of democracy will be held accountable, someday, because all dictatorships fall.
The only question is how many people have to suffer before then.
America today is not substantially different to the America that dropped more tonnage of bombs on each of Laos and Cambodia than were dropped by the Allies during the whole of WW2, destroying whole villages and murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in stark violation of international law and the Geneva Convention.
Nobody came even close to being brought to justice for that, so why would things be any different now?
Except no mercy this time. No plucking any of them out of the trials to build rockets or create federal intelligence agencies or cutting any deals like the USA did with the Nazi’s. Fascists don’t believe in mercy anyway so why show them any?
I hope that you’re right, but it does need to be pointed out that Nazi Germany didn’t have thousands of strategic nukes
I want to see leavitt do the march to prison. She is the present day Otto.
It took a whole world war and everyone bagging on Germany/Japan for something like that to happen.
In order for history to repeat, we’d need to have everyone in the world team up against the US.
Not really, just for someone who comes after him to hold him and his cronies accountable. And there will be someone after him, sooner or later, that will. It might not be his immediate successor, or his successor’s successor. But people aren’t going to forget about this.
Imagine we just waited in 1944 for someone to succeed Hitler
I mean, Hitler was not in his late 70s, but his mid fifties. Chances were quite good that, were it not for the Allied invasion and his cowardice, he could’ve lived naturally another ten or twenty years (his health was shit but that was mostly down to drug use, and hey, Ozzy Osbourne is still alive, it could’ve happened), so yeah he kind of had to be stopped.
Donald Trump, the way he eats, you think he’s going to live past his term? That he’s going to be lucid enough by the end of it, to try and hang on to power? Nah, man, by that time they’ll have convinced him to live out his remaining time (if he doesn’t die in office) at Mar-A-Lago after endorsing a Heritage-Foundation-approved successor for the 2028 race, and hope his endorsement carries that candidate to victory. That way they don’t have to try and remove the two-term limit. They kiss his ass, make him feel like a living god-king, maybe even have him meet with said successor on a regular basis to placate him into believing he still actually runs things.
Now, could they try repealing the 22nd amendment? sure, but it’d be far easier to convince an 82 year old senile narcissist he’s still the BMOC pulling the strings. It also has far better optics.
I think he will. I think he could outlive many of us. Modern healthcare is incredible, when you can afford your own team of doctors it’s even better.
True, he probably won’t be, but it’s still possible. I think it’s a real concern.
He could also live for 20 years, statistics wouldn’t say so but there is always an odd one out. Also, he doesn’t smoke, doesn’t drink, doesn’t drive. So I wouldn’t choose to ‘just wait it out’. Especially considering the longer he is in power, the more likely it becomes the next one in his place isn’t there because of free and fair elections. Again, I wouldn’t choose to just wait it out.
Oh my point isn’t that waiting will fix the problem, just that there will be an “after trump”, whether he likes it or not
Sooner or later yes
An invasion of Greenland, or Canada, wouldn’t necessarily be unlawful.
Remember 9/11? Remember George Bush asking Congress to approve his use of military force to hunt down the suspects?
Well that Authorization for the Use of Military Force, unlike any prior which had clearly defined limitations, was simply against “terror” and set to expire “never.”
One member of Congress refused to vote for this, precisely because she understood that Congress was effectively forever giving up its ability to determine when and how the President was allowed to deploy the military. She got death threats. She was right.
All Trump has to do is “find” a terrorist threat in a country, and he’s allowed to send US troops there. Remember how he recently decided that fentanyl is a weapon of mass destruction? Yeah.
He’s already trying with the Mexican gang in Canada. Congress are well aware of this strategy and it has been a talking point one the floor. It’s actually been said that US is more a threat to Canada not the other way around. In which more fentanyl and illegal immigrants pass the border from the US to Canada. I mean he has that angle in which he can complain about the Mexican gang but then he has to also admit he is also responsible for putting them in Canada. Cuz the US is the only path to Canada from Mexico.
You’re trying to use logic against a man who only uses logic when he needs it to make his plans sound legit to rational thinkers
You’re thinking if us laws, but we’re talking about international law
Lol, that was funny. The powerful in the US don’t even care about domestic law, let alone international law, which has even less of an enforcement mechanism without the risk of starting an international conflict.
It’s the same reason why Netanyahu and Putin haven’t been arrested even though they have warrants out for their arrest by the ICJ.
The US deliberately does not subject itself to international laws, because it breaks them routinely. It is a rogue state in that regard, and it did not start with Trump or even Bush.
The US already attacked Canada using one of its propaganda tools: Facebook. This is cyberwarfare.
Facebook bombarded Canadian audience with right wing propaganda during the election.
https://themercury.com/news/national/canadas-election-offers-fodder-for-us-right-wing-influencers/article_f1adcc7c-4c18-569a-b875-01c222cc406a.html
Some have tried to argue that it’s actually facebook trying to get revenge for Canadian courts eliminating the cbc from social media feeds. Does that make any sense? They don’t care if canada doesn’t get news. They want that since they were curating those news feeds with stilted inflammatory content like many right wingers wanted in the first place.