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    11 months ago

    Yeah, I trust this about as much as I trust the story that Hamas was storing guns and grenades in the same room as an MRI machine.

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      11 months ago

      They can also force confessions of terrorism! Pretty bold headline that’s parroting IDF propaganda, if you ask me. Wouldn’t say this article belongs in a news community.

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            Who will save the Palestinian population from Hamas, that setup military cells in civil buildings, schools and hospitals?

            Did anyone tried to save them?

            Did anyone succeed saving them?

            By the current ongoing IDF revelations, since Israel disengaged from Gaza (2005) as an attempt to give Palestinians independence, there was ongoing terror prosper, not Palestinians prosper, but terror prosper.

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        Funny how the anti-Israel crowd moves the goal posts from there is no evidence to, this is IDF propaganda and can’t be trusted. I guess the footage they released of Hamas tunnels was also faked? The footage of belligerents shooting from the hospital too?

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          On one of those videos that the Israeli soldiers filmed themselves and then posted (because they don’t think they’ve done anything wrong), there’s one where they’re singing a song about attacking their enemies and one of the lyrics was something to the effect of “there are no civilians” among the Palestinians.

          Of course, if the Israelis think that there are no Palestinian civilians, that means that every Palestinian is an enemy soldier, and therefore a legitimate target. :/

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          It’s true that I don’t trust the IDF here, just as I wouldn’t trust the SS in WWII. If you think that’s farfetched, then I will hope you come to your senses.

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              Lol gotta love these deflections and whataboutisms. I always wonder if you lot are deliberately deflecting, or if you’re just incapable of engaging in any meaningful way.

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                11 months ago

                It is a valid question if you do not trust IDF as source of information. It is not diversion tactics.

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                  Incorrect. I challenge you to scour my post and comment history for any mention of Hamas or anything that would justify you asking such a question. (I’ll save you some time – you won’t find it.)

                  Otherwise, we’ll just assume you’re deflecting.

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              The point was that the IDF made a big deal in the opening days about how they had found forty decapitated babies, and used that as proof of how bad Hamas was.

              That was the one where they went too far and everybody started wanting proof of so outlandish a claim.

              I really wish I could find the video where the IDF guy say something like” we know we have lied in the past but this time it is different.”

              Those babies are where people started doubting them and looking at everything so clearly

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                It isn’t related to this article.

                The article state facts, and they’ll remain facts until otherwise proofed regarding this article.

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        You are being wrong saying it’s a propaganda because this is not a lie. It’s an official report from within Gaza.

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            I do have a doubt, because there is no proof it happened.

            However, there is a proof that weapons were found next to baby incubators.

            After Hamas killed more than 100 babies with their own hands, I actually won’t have a doubt they’ll put weapons next to these babies.

            You can have doubt, you can not believe it, it’s ok, but facts are facts.

            Hamas is brutal and bad for the Palestinians, prove me otherwise.

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      Those soldiers went in after the bombings. You’re inaccurately implying that they should have gone in without air support, which would have caused massive casualties to their side.

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      So those guns they are holding above their heads and bullet proof vests are medical utensils according to you.

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        That doesn’t answer either question. Even if they found a cache of weapons and vests, that doesn’t mean the people they have arrested were the ones responsible for hiding them. Giving them to the people to hold to “prove” they are terrorists is just theater. I’m sure you know that the IDF is perfectly capable of putting rifles in people’s hands.

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          I’m sure you know that the IDF is perfectly capable of putting rifles in people’s hands

          Well I’m in contrary, not sure, and this statement remains false until you prove this statement regarding this article, with a reliable source, otherwise.

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            Do you really think the IDF would allow them to walk out of that compound with loaded rifles in their hands? Or do you think it’s much more likely that the IDF unloaded all of those rifles, if they were ever loaded in the first place, gave them to the men, and then had them walk out?

            Because the IDF are really fucking stupid if it’s the former.

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              I’m no professional militant and I wasn’t there, so I have no comment.

              If you can prove otherwise relating to this article, with a reliable source, the facts remains as stated in the article.

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            There was literally an article three days ago on the BBC that showed that the IDF did exactly that.

            The IDF has been lying this entire time - a bunch of the casualties from the October 7th attack were caused by the IDF themselves.

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              I wrote:

              until you prove this statement regarding this article

              You wrote:

              There was literally an article three days ago on the BBC that showed that the IDF did exactly that

              This is not relevant for this article, so currently there is no proof regarding this article.

              The IDF has been lying this entire time

              False statement.

              • a bunch of the casualties from the October 7th attack were caused by the IDF themselves.

              This is not relevant for this article, so currently there is no proof regarding this article.