• bedrooms@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    As a non-US citizen I’d like to reiterate that you can get rid of this idiocy only by banning guns.

    Not interested in American opinion regrading this one, sorry, it’s a super simple fact with no discussion worth wasting time for us.

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      9 months ago

      Statistically, most Americans agree with much stronger gun controls. Even a significant portion of the conservative block. It’s the few holding the rest of us ransom.

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        That would be because there are many people who have no idea about firearms trying to legislate firearms. When the laws are written and constructed in such a way that it makes it so that the commoner is a criminal then the law is not viable. Stop sticking ridiculous riders on your bills and legislation.

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      Not interested in American opinion regrading this one

      Kind of shitty to assume that all Americans have the same opinion, no?

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        9 months ago

        Experience has taught me that unfortunately, while you don’t all have the same opinion, most do reject the simple premise of the original comment, for various reasons, whether they’re “left” or right.

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      9 months ago

      I find it frustrating when people make a statement, and then say they aren’t interested in hearing a specific group’s opinion. It’s rude af.

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      9 months ago

      b b but my sport makes me feel good!

      and mountain climbing will only injure me

      i want an exciting sport that will hurt others

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      I, from the UK, once had a ‘conversation’ about gun control with an American on Reddit. What brought this about was the day before a 9 year old girl was killed by a stray bullet from a drive-by. One moment she was in her bedroom doing some homework, and the next she was dead.

      After a lot of back and forth with him getting more flummoxed and aggressive he then said something like “If she was outside playing like a normal kid then she wouldn’t have been killed.”
      Yep, he blamed her.

      That was the time I realised it was a waste of everything talking about it.

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      9 months ago

      Or the mother could.have practiced proper gun safety.

      The kid could have done this woth a knife that was left in her purse

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          You think she couldn’t have stabbed her teacher ?

          Stabbings happen every day in the United states. They are one of the easiest weapons to get a hold of.

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            Have you even read the story? No, given the same circumstances I don’t believe a six year old with a knife would have been able to stab his teacher through her hand and into her chest. If you honestly believe otherwise I can only conclude you have no idea:

            a) what a gun is. b) what a knife is. c) what a six year old is.

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              Considering I own multiple guns and multiple knifes I can tell you that a knife can easily go through a hand and into a chest and a six year old would be more than powerful enough to do so.

              Perhaps you only have experience woth butter knifes and steak knives. But I have seen a high quality cooking knives take off fingers like it was a butter knife going through warm butter.

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                So it’s six year olds you’re not familiar with. Right you are chief, you keep on believing. Makes you wonder why militaries go to all the expense of having guns when knives are exactly the same don’t it.

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                  I may not be as familiar as you are it seems. However I have multiple young children in my family amd some friends have children ranging from a few months old to teenagers. I certainly know how strong a five year old can be.

                  You should know that knives and bayonets have been used effectively in militaries the world over for over a century

                  But you know that and just do t want to admit it.

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    Utterly unapologetic to the point of blaming society for “failing her” instead of owning up to her shitty parenting

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      I mean, society did fail her but that doesn’t mean she shouldn’t take responsibility for what happened. She left her gun in her purse, unsecured, around a six year old with serious mental health issues. She is absolutely liable. That doesn’t mean that she is the only one to blame, tho

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        Society has failed most of us, we’re still responsible for our actions. She had an unsecured gun with no lockbox or trigger lock, this is on her.

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          Oh, I agree. She had a gun and thus a responsibility to keep it out of her kids hands. I read a bit more about it, and apparently she discharged the weapon a short while prior because she believed that her boyfriend was cheating on her. Yikes!

          Doesn’t change that we can’t recognize that this likely stems from many societal problems

          I think the world would be better, if we accept BOTH personal responsibility, and the responsibility that we have to others living in the society we all share. It probably won’t happen any time soon, but I can try to spread the idea

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    I live in Czechia, where getting a gun license is not easy. It’s a 3 step test - theory (for all gun license groups you are permitted one mistake in a 40 question test), gun manipulation (where you show the commission that you know how to handle a gun, with dummy ammo), and gun practice (where you show you know how to shoot and hit the target).

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    Okay, parent should be held responsible… but how will making parent absent from kids life improve kid’s behavior? Punish them some other way. Community service, money, whatever.

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      I would think a parent this irresponsible would do more damage to the kid being around than not being around. The fact that she showed no remorse for what she did doesn’t bode well for how she’d raise the kid.