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    11 months ago

    Reminder that the both the Mormon & Catholic “Churches” could feed, house & clothe every single homeless person in the USA indefinitely & it would only cost them a fraction of their net worth.

    They had rather sit on their wealth like the Dragon though, regardless of the punishments for that described in their “Bible”.

    That’s how you know they don’t really believe in their own bullshit.

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        11 months ago

        How do you reckon we make that happen? Any hope, or are they as powerful as billionaires?

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          I’m far less worried about churches paying sales, property, and income taxes than people making tens of billions of dollars a year.

          We’ll get WAY MORE social benefit out of properly taxing the ultra-ultra rich than we will out of the hundreds of thousands of mini-churches who have volunteer receptionists twice a week or even the few hundred mega churches with jet-setting pastors.

          Turn your ire on the bigotry and hypocrisy of a church that attempts to profess love and hate at the same time and out of the same mouth to your heart’s content, but when it comes to money, we need to deal with the robber barons. They’re the ones causing the economic problem.

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        11 months ago

        What? Churches are specifically exempt from ALL taxes in the US. I clouding income, property, and all others.

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          It’s unacceptable that they’re the only ones who are officially exempt.

          Kind of seems like the person you’re replying to is well-aware of that, and when they said “Churches need to pay taxes,” they didn’t mean it as “churches are currently legally obligated to pay taxes” but rather “churches paying taxes is something that needs to happen.”

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      Libertarians are always certain religious charities will foot all of the bills though.

      Like if humans were perfect and weren’t greedy assholes.

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      11 months ago

      Hey I’m all about shoving this down religious zealots throats but can you site some proof so I can do just that lol 😜

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          11 months ago

          Oh sorry Im having discussions on a discussion site. I just like talking to people so sorry I talked to people.

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        There’s an often cited figure that it would cost $20 billion to end homelessness. As best as I can find, that figure is taken from an interview in 2012 with Mark Johnson who was with the dept of housing and urban development at the time, he wasn’t directly quoted in the interview, it wasn’t an official statement from the department, and by his own admission it was a rough estimate, I’m also not clear if that’s a global figure or specifically for the US, though I suspect it’s for just the US.

        The wealth of churches can be a bit hard to quantify, between cash, investments, real estate, artwork, etc. across multiple countries and various legal entities, but either organization is worth, at the low end, easily 10s of billions of dollars, and possibly hundreds (I tend to see estimates for the Mormons somewhere between $100-200 billion) and in the case of the Catholic Church, they are almost definitely sitting on some properties and artifacts that could only be valued as “priceless,” if the Pope, hypothetically, decided to sell off the entirety of Vatican City, how would the value even be determined for that?

        So if we assume that 20 billion estimate is good, either church could handle it pretty easily.

        That figure is over a decade old at this point though and so likely outdated (if it ever was accurate at all, which is questionable at best,) I’m seeing other sources saying that the true price to end homelessness would be at least $300 billion at the low end.

        Which, again, may possibly be within either or both church’s ability to pay for out of pocket depending on how they use their assets, but even if it’s not, they could certainly put a very good dent in the problem.

        You could also quibble about what it means to end homelessness and the appropriate ways to go about doing so.

        So in short, they could maybe do it, but at the very least they could certainly afford to do a lot more than they are.

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      Reminder that the secular institution with the Democrats leading it can also fix homelessness with even less of a fraction of their net worth.

      Atheism to the rescue again.

      Oh. Wait.

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        Probably, especially these days, but the #GOP has to actually be come a minority party before that can happen.

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        It’s not about faith. It’s about corporations. Religious, commercial or government, none of them are working for us.

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          His comment was about faith though.

          I keep having to read the dumb narrative that le atheism would fix everything here on Lemmy and everything is the fault of religion but the atheist institutions are doing just as little if not less than the religious ones.