• UsernameHere@lemmings.world
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    11 months ago

    Biden never wanted to give Covid relief checks

    Where did you hear this?

    Then he shortchanged everyone on the actual amount he promised

    I thought Congress decided the amount?

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        11 months ago

        I remember the controversy and would’ve preferred the full $2000.

        I remember Republicans saying they wouldn’t let the full $2000 pass. So Biden lowered the amount so that it would actually pass.

        Because Congress had the final say in what would pass. Right?

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          If Congress had the final say then Biden shouldn’t have kept saying $2,000. But I guess you don’t get elected by only making promises you can keep

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            11 months ago

            So you feel Biden should’ve stuck with that original $2000 and let Republicans block the bill which would’ve resulted in nothing for the American people?

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              This whole exchange shows why we’re doomed. This guy is shitting on Biden for not giving him more money, but still giving him as much as he possibly could. Meanwhile it’s the other party’s fault the number is smaller to begin with.

              Oh he should have predicted what arbitrary number the Republicans were going to dig in on and only promise that? Like they wouldn’t have used that as the new starting point in negotiations and gone even lower

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                  Some guy gives you $6.

                  I say I’m gonna give you $20.

                  I get you $14 and I say it’s $20 because of the $6 from before.

                  Do you not get why people would be upset about this? Stop thinking like a wonk and start thinking like someone who reads at a fifth grade level and had their civics class cut due to lack of funding.

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                    11 months ago

                    Stop thinking like a wonk

                    You should start thinking this way, so that the things you say are correct and relevant.

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                    No, it’s some guy gives you $6.

                    I say I’m going to give you $20.

                    When it comes time to give you the money later, a third party says no.

                    I give you the $14 that I can give you.

                    You ignore that the third party got in the way and you told me it’s my fault.

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      11 months ago

      I mean, am I in Biden’s head? No.

      Is there any other reasonable conclusion to draw from his behavior and rhetoric in the political context he was in? No.

      The process involved congress but the president had most of the power to frame and shape what the covid relief checks were.

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        It’s almost like the president doesn’t have absolute authority to implement ideas exactly how they like, and have to work with other branches of the government, which usually means compromising.

        Wow. Guess we really should pivot to authoritarianism. Then campaign promises can be implemented to the letter. /s if that wasn’t obvious.

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        11 months ago

        I mean, am I in Biden’s head? No.

        So you made that up.

        Is there any other reasonable conclusion to draw from his behavior and rhetoric in the political context he was in? No.

        Republicans said they wouldn’t let the full $2000 pass. If Biden tried it anyway it wouldn’t pass and Americans would be left with nothing. That’s common sense. But you claim there is no other conclusion to come to…

        The process involved congress but the president had most of the power to frame and shape what the covid relief checks were.

        And Republicans in Congress said they wouldn’t let the full $2000 pass.

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          Republicans said they wouldn’t let the full $2000 pass. If Biden tried it anyway it wouldn’t pass and Americans would be left with nothing. That’s common sense. But you claim there is no other conclusion to come to…

          Source on this? Even if it is true democrats did nothing to publicize this fact, the fight for this shit is like Biden’s “fight” for a $15 minimum wage. Even if he technically fought for it, the strategy is so poor and so halfhearted it hard to count it for anything meaningful.

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            What was poor about his strategy?

            The only other strategy would be to write a bill that will go nowhere.

            How is that a better strategy?