If the average American were asked what they imagine the priorities of the feminist movement are these days, most people would likely cite concerns like “fighting abortion bans” or “getting justice for sexual violence victims” or boring mainstays like “equal pay for equal work.” But if you listen in to the world of right-wing social media influencers, they have a different answer. To them, feminists are single-mindedly obsessed with destroying women who identify as “tradwives.”

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    There’s nothing I find more pathetic than a man that cannot get through the day without an obedient slave to wipe his arrse for him.

    It’s the epitome of fragility.

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    Imagine not knowing how to cook or do anything for yourself so you need a captive woman to do it all for you and not resent you at all.

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      My conservative friend is literally this person.

      His mother was his “slave” and now he found an “asian slave.” He doesn’t cook or clean or anything really. He’s even told me to look for foreign women because “white women” don’t want to do things for you like others will.

      She does all the work at home and he makes money. He’s living the 1950s conservative dream…

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        I dislike your friend so much, just from your description of them, that I caught myself wanting to down vote your post.

        Sorry friend lemming, thanks for the hard share.

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          Lol thanks for resisting! Just remember the downvote button was “invented” to filter out distractions from the discussion, it’s not about what we like or don’t like but whether it’s relevant to the conversation! :)

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      Remember boys and men: If you can’t get a girlfriend, much less a woman of your dreams, just become radicalized by a fringe extremist group on the internet.

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      In fairness, all x wing (pun intended) fantasies are rotting young minds. My extremism is mind rot, whether you’re a guy, girl or whatever you want to be in between. Yes, be progressive, but please please also be pragmatic. There is a real world put there and the pushing of left wing agendas in the past decade has caused more hand than it’s done good. People are tired of the more nonsensical parts being pushed and now we have a trump in the Netherlands. Great job.

      Can we please focus on actual important rights? We fucking lost abortion in the US, thanks to trump who also had a lot of “fuck this PC police bullshit” votes, this coming from too many of my US friends and customers who voted for him back in the day even though he was bad for them, they just were done with the left wing crap…

      Please be practical, focus on real and actual issues that need to be resolved.

      Edit: I miss the times where people would read more than just the first 5 words…

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    I’m curious how all these alt-right (e.g., white supremacist/christian nationalists) think that they’re going to be able to afford a family–since the very concept of a tradwife is rooted in having a large family–when their wife is going to be entirely a stay-at-home wife? What kind of career do they think that they’re going to have? Are they in medical school, or prepping for the bar exam? Did they just finish their MBA?

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      The funny thing is that the GOP were the ones who destroyed the middle class. In 1968, one job supporting a family of four with a stay at home mom was the norm. Nixon’s Vietnam War inflation [he paid for the war with paper money to avoid raising taxes] combined with the Oil Boycott made more and more families dependent on a second job to keep going. After three terms or Reaganomics, the two income family was the norm. Meanwhile, $1 million in 1968 was a vast fortune, and by 1993 it was what a rich guy paid for a party.

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      Yuuup. Both my wife (and myself for that matter) said it’d be great to be a stay at home spouse. But then the other person would have to make double the money, and that’s not happening…

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      The reality of feminism, though, is that if a woman truly desired to be that kind of wife, they’d 100% have that choice. That is kind of the entire point of feminism. If that’s the woman they want to be, then more power to them.

      But they also want to be sure women aren’t being coerced, blackmailed, etc., into that subservient position. Because that’s the most important part. It must be her decision.

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        Sure, feminist ideals require any woman to be free to choose a Leave It To Beaver lifestyle. But that still doesn’t make it a realistic lifestyle for most people, because feminism won’t provide the means to pay for it.

        And just as freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences, feminism doesn’t mean I can’t find certain people’s life choices revolting. People who advocate the “tradwife” lifestyle aren’t doing so in a vacuum; it’s very much a product of the fascist movement and it shouldn’t be allowed to hide behind feminism.

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          Oh, please don’t misunderstand. I am not defending these “tradwife”-obsessed psychos…

          I just wanted to point out that there is nothing inherently wrong with that lifestyle, as long as the person chooses to live that way.

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    In my doomer brain…

    It’s just a preview of what’s to come if the far right takes over, for every woman that is unfortunate to come across a man that is all in.

    They’ll reverse no fault marriage, and then when you marry the guy (either because the guy pulls a bait and switch, or you don’t really understand what your agreeing too until after the fact) you either comply or get beat into submission, with no way out, while you pop out babies

    This is a handbook, not a fad.

    I’m sure I’m wrong and it’s a bunch of women that don’t want to work…but if it’s not, it could turn into some scary shit.

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      Well. The Handmaid’s Tale is the handbook since they literally want Gilead and have been openly working towards it

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    Naïve man children who need validation because being with someone their equal is scary, and the “tradwife” insofar as they exist, wants to be completely dependent on this manchild. Sounds like a great idea I’m sure it works out well all the time. The idea of being with a woman like this hell to me, and any of the associated sexual fantasies involved are hotter when power is willingly relinquished, from either person, not in some weird coercive context.

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      being with someone their equal superior

      This is their real fear. And that if women are given a chance to live their life in freedom, the men might actually have to offer something on the relationship table that they might not be able to manage.

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        Surely it’s easier to demand a submissive partner who won’t talk back rather than spend time on grooming, personal hygiene, and not being a fucking massively immature man-baby though?

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    Why should we care about how tow consenting adults choose to live their matrimonial lives. What is this. Fascism ?