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I love Firefox. Love it.
But I keep coming across sites that don’t function properly with it. Is this Firefox’s fault? No - Firefox follows standards nicely. But growing numbers of sites don’t, and this is a big problem at a micro and macro level.
Chrome seems to have such a foothold that it is getting away with embrace/extend/extinguish and I think it’s a very sad thing.
This is an especially common problem on Android. I have found many sites whose mobile version simply does not work in Firefox. It’s very frustrating.
Have you got an example I can test? I switched to Firefox mobile over a year ago and I can’t think of any time I’ve come across a site that didn’t work.
The most recent issue I had was Birds and Beans “manage subscription” page so I don’t think you can test that without a coffee subscription. But here is a screenshot:
I’m not sure why it says “nightly” as I’m on the stable version.
This isn’t Firefoxs fault though, is it? Just a bad Website putting arbitrary restrictions in place
Not Firefox’s fault at all. Just a website not following web standards.
That was Internet Explorer 20 years ago and look where we are now.
I personally can’t remember the last time I had issues with a site on Firefox in the last few years since I switched.
Discord and spotify web versions don’t work on Firefox for me. On discord in can’t connect to a call and Spotify doesn’t play songs or it takes a long time after pressing play for the song to start playing.
Both work flawlessly for me. In fact, discord on Firefox works much better than the standalone app specifically for calls.
Sounds to me like something is broken or misconfigured on your system.
That’s such bullshit. People keep saying SO MANY SITES DONT WORK ON FOREFUX
with zero examples.
I see no examples. You’re making a ridiculous claim with no proof and I’m astounded at how many people believe you here.
If you are concerned about things like PWAs like I was, try it out anyway. PWAs require a bit more setup, but are a lot more flexible in Firefox. For example, PWAs with http connections have a huge banner in Chrome, and just an icon in Firefox. Everything I’ve noticed is that firefox is just as snappy as Chrome
I thought PWA’s didn’t work on Firefox. That’s good to know, because I’ve been using chromium specifically for PWA’s.
Same here, I tried the PWAsForFirefox extension a few years back and found the setup to be too much of a pain in the ass compared to the Chromium forks. I tried again around 9-12 months ago when Manifest V3 drama was making the rounds and found the extension had been overhauled and that’s no longer a problem. As a bonus each PWA is a self-contained browser instance, so performance is improved when only the PWA is open, and extensions are per-PWA. So I can run only Purple Adblock on my Twitch PWA, or only uBlock for Youtube, etc.
I’m using them heavily as well. Mostly good. Painful though when moving between computers as you have to set them up on each one. If they can get it to sync eventually that’d be handy.
Any numbers from Mozilla about increase in usage or anything?
Without this fiasco, i would’ve still use chrome. Yeah, now i use firefox.
Firefox is my daily driver, but oooh how I miss native tab groups like they have on most chromium browsers right in the tab bar. Extensions like simple tab groups just hit differently and are inferior…
Are there any settings you can tweak in the about:config page? That’s how you have to enable the compact tab size, which is annoying.
I totally agree. Especially now that you can save the tab groups like bookmarks (experimental flag in chromium)
i’ve been on Firefox in the last 8 years. i don’t even know what’s going on in Chrome and other browsers lol.
I mean I tried to download the official minecraft client for debian and was not able to on Firefox.
Microsoft disabled the site on non Chrome browser
Just tried it myself and it doesn’t have any issues at all. It seems like it might be an issue with something else on your end.
Though honestly I’d strongly recommend against using the Official launcher as it has been known to introduce bugs and in general has poorer support for mods. I prefer the MultiMC forks like Prism, which don’t have the bugs the official one does.
I wanted sth that is updated by my system and the flatpak I found logged me in as a unsecure user or I had to login at each launch
This sounded weird to me, so I just tried it. Running Firefox on Kubuntu, I just downloaded it with one click from here.
I like how they mention Internet Explorer.
Internet explorer was the shit in 1992. That’s only 30 years ago, not everybody is quick to switch. 😜
There’s also an icon for Navigator, and none for edge. LOL
Maybe they needed an image that was out of copyright?Its biggest selling point was that it was bundled for free with Windows 98 while Netscape Navigator was still a pay-for product.
Yes apparently I remembered 3 years wrong according to Wikipedia, I am pretty sure we got Internet Explorer for Windows 3.11, as a separate free product, but Wikipedia states it was released with Windows 95 plus pack in 1995. So 28 years old not 30. But the plus pack although moderately successful cannot compete with being included with Windows 98. The last good Windows version, where you could boot to dos, and fix everything in Windows if they were broken. NT all the way up until Windows 11 sucks IMO. Bad design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer
In my former job, I had no choice but use Chrome due to work rules. If I couldn’t have installed uBlock at the time, it would have killed me. So I hope for people like me, there’s at least an adblocker that has a small chance of working in Chrome.
Vivaldi has an adblocker built-in but has no cosmetic filtering unfortunately. I did ask and they said it’s been prioritised given the MV3 problems.
If they were in my situation, installing another browser was not an option, but installing Chrome extensions was still possible.
In that case, it’s best to hope the workplace enables the enterprise policy.
Well that sucks.
I like Librewolf better
I.e. Firefox
Whatever forks you choose, they’d better be based off Gecko-based browsers, and the only one now is Firefox (and all that forked from it)
Librewolf is firefox without the bloat.
Yes, essentially. But that’s still Firefox, and it makes sense to refer to it as such when talking about global things like Manifest V2 support, adblocking, and other basic functional blocks from eagle view.
And then we can go into details and talk about differences between Firefox forks, Librewolf being just one of the most popular. This is important to talk about, just not in this particular context.
It’s like uniting and arguing in favor of Linux regardless of the distros - distro wars are still valid, but not something we should immediately load onto a Windows user. Heck, even if person goes for a goddamn Ubuntu, it will be an improvement. Same logic.
Is that moon a browser?
I think it’s that :
I briefly used a version of that on a legacy application that needed flash, because it still supports it.
You are correct. I used it on older hardware due to how thin it is, but it has less manpower than more popular forks, so rendering of bloated websites, some of them needing their own workarounds coded in, can be slow and wonky. E.g. Xitter run, well, like xit.
thank you comment section, lemmy is so obnoxious when it comes to firefox ill be going with something chromium based soon now out of spite
Enjoy your ads because adblock on chromium fails
my man, not only have several forks got inbuild adblockers that wont be affected by manifestv3, ublock origin already got a working version for a long time
Say that to YouTube when they tell you “UwU please turn off your Adblocker”
That’s the problem with Chromium based browsers.
your own fault for watching youtube directly and i never had that on a chromium browser, only ever on firefox
You’re telling me people actually still use chrome?
They are. In fact, they make up 60 plus percent of world-wide browser users.
Don’t forget that Chrome is Android’s default browser.
And that’s a problem
I like Firefox as default browser, but if i need something more secure i choose FireDragon
I’ve started making the switch. The only thing that’s holding me back fully is the google search function. I just don’t get as accurate results on Firefox as I do on Chrome
I’m trying to make the switch to Firefox, but I’m running into some issues. The main one being, I travel internationally a lot for work and rely heavily on chrome automatically translating every web page I visit. Is there a way to have this on both my desktop and mobile (android)? When I look at the available extensions there are like 15 available… Thankfully one of them is uBlock Origin
Firefox does now have built-in page translation that runs offline. While it’s not the best one out there it only needs to connect to the internet once to download the translation data.