• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    Being a republican means you never have to admit you’re wrong. You just live in a whole other universe where chemtrails turn the frogs gay, and Trump is an innocent, Christ-like patriot.

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      What I never understood (not from America), is that one party claims to really care about freedom and less involved government.

      Whenever I hear that I think cool, so the freedom to have full autonomy over your body? Legal drugs, abortion, etc. Or the freedom to marry who you want, whatever gender. The freedom to legally end your own life, for example if you are terminally ill.

      But usually it’s just large companies shouldn’t pay tax and we want guns, but for everything else fuck freedom.

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        No, you understand completely. The people voting for that party are just brainwashed morons and middle class dipshits with a few stocks who think they’ll become billionaires if only regulations were looser. You understand American politics better than like 80% of Americans.

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        What gets me is the obvious con of it all. They preach anti establishment rhetoric… while being the establishment. They tell people not to trust the government… while in government… and expect people to trust them. And it works.

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      And I don’t get why they hate the King so much either. The monarchy brings lots of tourism money into the country.

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    “any moment now anyone who got the vax is gonna flop over and start foaming at the mouth, I heard it on the My Pillow Guy show.”

    I can’t decide which is more depressing, people stupid enough to believe the shit, or the absurd lack of credibility their sources provide - fucking rubes and idiotic liars deserve each other I guess.

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      If the government wanted to kill people, they’d kill those who refused to comply.

      So the thing that would make more sense, is that the COVID vaccine was an antidote, and the government was going to release a toxic gas to kill everyone who didn’t take it.

      But nah, their argument is that the government is killing those who comply. Ya, because that makes sense.

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        That’s one of the things that bugs me about conspiracy theories. So many of them don’t even have a point.

        How can so many be people be so wrapped up in conspiracism, but never once have the though, “Oh, wait, why would anyone do this? It’d be pointless.”

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          That’s what gets me about flat earthers. The “best” explanation I’ve seen is that it would show the Bible is true and the elites don’t want us to believe in God, but… would it show the Bible is true? Why even start this century long lie in the first place? I don’t think discovering the earth is round is what pushed people into secularism in the first place, and revealing now it was wrong wouldn’t get people into religion?

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          It’s because people aren’t wired that way. There’s a name for that phenomenon, but I forgot.

          The idea behind it is that people make up “reasons” (conspiracy strategies) that fit the event. A big event needs a big reason, they can’t just accept that some things happen due to accidents or just by chance.

          That’s why Covid can’t have been natural, it must have escaped from a lab! The government is giving us free vaccines? It can’t be that they just want to get us back to work, there must be a secret plot behind that!

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          Flat Earth is exactly that.Nobody has explained to me why “NASA doesnt want you to know the truth”

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        Someone straight up told me its because the elites only want those they can respect to survive.

        It’s a wierd form of hating them but desperately wanting their approval. I think they all just have daddy issues that aren’t the kinky fun kind.

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      When you point out its been a long time, and you’re fine, so they say, “Give it 10 more years” lmao wtf just shut up and crawl back under your rock you science denying turnips

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      Me: “What about all of the other governments? Europe, Africa, Australia, Russia, they’re all in total agreement and doing it together?”

      Them: processing that there are other countries and governments outside of the US’s control

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        Many of these people would probably answer that governments are actually just puppets of the global pharmaceutical industry.

        And Bill Gates.

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    I wish. They still protest against the lockdowns every saturday down here in Melbs. You know, the lockdowns that are long over. But they want those freedoms that aren’t being restricted in any way, shape or form, dammit!

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      I’ve seen the anti-vaxxers out and about. They have all these photos of people on little sticks and you think it’s going to be people who allegedly died of vaccines, but when you get up close it’s all stuff like “Marie had the Moderna vaccine. A day later she sprained her ankle climbing down off a horse.” “John had a sniffly nose a few weeks after Pfizer.”

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        “I know people who got the vaccine and died right after”

        Ok. And I know 1,000,000x more people that didn’t get the vaccine and died from COVID. Even if they died from the vaccine (they didn’t), the vaccine is safer.

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      Tell me about it… They shit me up the walls.

      Now they have their “say no to the voice” rally with actual literal Nazi’s. I mean conspiracy theory territory can get alt-right very quickly but to have actual Nazi’s at your rally… You fucked up.

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    I’ve heard someone tell me “it’s a hoax but I got sick twice” in the same sentence.

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        Straight up my uncle was in the ICU for over a week and has been basically crippled by long covid. He still denies it’s real.

        Dude can barely check his own mail 18 months after getting it.

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          My cousin ranted about COVID and evil masks and Fauci. He then started talking about how he installs 5g antennas for a living and is blown away that people believe conspiracy theories about 5g, and how sometimes his favorite news programs bad mouth 5g, but they’re ignorant and should listen to experts. I lost a little hope that day.

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          On the other hand, I can imagine that if one has fallen into the conspiracy rabbit hole, not done anything to reduce risk like getting vaccines or masking, or even going out of your way to avoid taking those precautions, then losing some family members to covid might make doing those mental gymnastics much easier. Because if one admitted one was wrong after such a thing happened, that would also mean accepting the idea that one might be partially responsible for the deaths of one’s own family members, and that is such an awful truth to accept that I can easily imagine someone desperately clinging to any belief that would make it not so, regardless of how absurd it was. Indeed, the longer one hangs on to it afterwards, the worse one’s actions look once you abandon the conspiracy theory, and so the motivation to cling to that belief no matter the evidence just would get stronger.

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      My boss lost his sense of smell (it’s been over a year). He copes by saying he’s never been much of a foodie! He tells employees not to take covid tests.

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    Everybody who got the vaccine was supposed to be dead by now, too. This is has gotta be the slowest-acting poison in history!

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    No time to talk about that now. Busy moving the goal posts.

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      Moving the goalposts suggests that they’re still talking about the same thing. Instead they’ve moved on to a new conspiracy and don’t even remember claiming the lockdowns were going to be permanent.

      In other words:

      “Who cares about lockdowns, that was 2 years ago. What matters is the Biden Crime Family!”

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    I’ve seen Facebook nutters screaming about 20mph limits in residential neighbourhoods.

    Apparently this is a Chinese scheme called “20 minute neighbourhoods” to prevent anyone travelling outside their hometown. I’m not entirely sure of the fucking mental gymnastics required for those leaps of logic. I decided not to argue, because nobody wins pigeon chess, and also she was kind of hot.

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    They are projecting. It would be nice if we as a society had enough resources to ask them what really makes them feel bad.