• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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    1 year ago

    I was in a national park this past weekend. Beautiful scenery, gorgeous vistas, and the clearest air anyone could ask for.

    Until some jerkass decided it was the perfect time to light up on the trail and then flick his cigarette into the woods. During fire season. Fucking asshole.

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      I was at some remote sea the other week. Pretty long, steep hike that took me like 3 hours. I just thought that this was probably the moste remote and beautiful place that i have ever seen, and still, there were cigarette buds scattered along the path.

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    1 year ago

    Addiction or not, someone who doesn’t put their trash where it belongs is disgusting scum.

    Especially when that trash can start a fire.

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      Maybe big tobacco as well. I feel bad for someone with an addiction. But choosing to throw waste on streets, sidewalks, or natural places is just rude and gross. Don’t make your problem everyone’s problem.

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    Let me just add the following:

    Many smokers never even think about it. It’s the most normal thing in the world to them to just flick their cigarette anywhere. It’s so engrained in their brains that it’s okay to do so, which is the main part of the problem.

    Just calling them out on it to make them aware can be a great start.

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        That can sadly happen, yeah. I only do it when there’s enough other people around to hear and see it, which also puts extra pressure on them.

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    I totally agree with you re: disposing of the end of the cigs. But when you’re outside, do you have an issue with the ash aswell?

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      I do have a problem with the ash. But I’ll admit that it’s more a conscious one than the emotional antipathy I feel towards the buds. The buds you can at least pick up and discard. But once the ash is on the ground, the pollutants are irretrievably in the environment.

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        Is it that much of a pollutant? Again just ash, I’m always pretty conscientious to dispose of my filter tips, but never thought the ash was a problem. Does it severely damage plant life? Is ashing in a concrete carpark more acceptable?

        Not trying to get facetious here, genuinely trying to find out more.

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    smoking is a beautifully executed tax on people via addiction. They created a product they cloak in the terminology of freedom and history, loaded with additional addictive chemicals and pushed it on our youth years ago. It’s not bad enough to kill you or your ability to “produce” but the odds are good it will kill you before you can collect social security and will act as a daily tax as its marked as a luxury good. It’s disgusting for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with the filter or the smell.

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    You don’t realize how scarce trash cans there are until you start smoking.

    That’s why I became enlightened and switched to vaping. Now I can stop worrying about trashcans and just pour chemicals straight into the ground (and into my own pockets). 256 IQ move right there, so smart it overflows back to 0.

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      I see piles of cigarette butts a foot away from trash cans all the time. Smokers are too lazy and too stupid to extend their arm before dropping them.

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            A trash can will hold all kinds of inflammable material, so no. Fuck anyone who puts their cigarette butts in anything but an ash tray specifically made for this purpose.

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              I mean, if you dip it in water or make sure it’s not burning/warm to the touch when you throw it out, no harm can be done. I do agree with you about burning cigarette butts though.

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                If only people would do at least that. I saw it first hand, maybe that’s why it angers me so much. Prevented a forest fire by sheer luck of being at the right place, at the right time.

                Hiked up a hill on vacation, chilling, having a great time, when my friend suddenly points at a trash can saying: Uh, is that thing smoking?

                Middle of the woods, that trash can was tied to a fucking tree, too. We sacrificed the water we brought with us and notified whoever was to notify. One hour later and it might’ve been too late.

                Dear smokers:
                CIGARETTE BUTTS BELONG IN AN ASH TRAY MADE FOR DISPOSING OF CIGARETTE BUTTS, AND NOWHERE ELSE.

                TAKE A PORTABLE ASH TRAY WITH YOU, IF YOU INTEND TO SMOKE WHILE BEING OUT AND ABOUT. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE.

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                  Yeah man, those people are pieces of shit. I also extunguished many burning trash cans in my time.

                  That’s why, back when I used to smoke, I had to be 100% sure the cigarette was not even warm (by touching the end with my finger) before throwing it out.

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    I can’t really comprehend how it got so accepted. Why don’t we punish this behaviour sufficiently if it is observed. Something like 12h of picking up filters would be quite fitting.

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        I think it probably would be enough if smokers just have to fear getting caught because its really not that big of a deal to throw it into the trash.

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        Presumably by police officers issuing citations for littering and judges imposing sentences that include community service doing litter cleanup.

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    Technically nature made us and in time we made plastic, so technically nature made plastic… This is all just nature’s fault! Kill it! 😬

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      I think smokers are unaware, that cigarette filters are plastic. Plastic full of environmental toxins.

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        I don’t smoke cigarettes anymore but when I did I was fully aware that the tips were disasters in terms of how long they take to break down and their pollution impact, which is why I’d never throw them anywhere that wasn’t an ashtray or a bin.

        Now joints, I’ve felt free to when it’s just a bit of paper and organic matter that is pretty much already obliterated just by smooshing it with my shoe.

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    All the smokers I know pocket their butts and toss them in the garbage later 🤷

    I guess they still ash their cigs on the ground, but I don’t really see ash as an issue. Maybe it is, but not to my knowledge

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      Ash is not as much of an issue, the butts are toxic to wildlife.

      My experience is totally opposite, I don’t know a single smoker who disposes of their butts properly.

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        I can’t speak to quantities or rates, but I see a LOT of cigarette butts on the ground. This meme is right on target, in my experience.

        My “favorite” was the time one threw their cigarette butt out the window of their car on a highway and it somehow ended up under the cowl of my windshield, so the smell was being sucked into my car by the ventilation system. And I couldn’t easily get in there to remove it - I needed tools I didn’t have on the road with me. At least it didn’t start a fire.

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    Lol, I think the problem goes way beyond smokers.

    But if you want to be the guy that singles out one small group of people to antagonize in a sea of sinners, I’m not gonna stop you.