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Cake day: June 11th, 2023

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  • It’s definitely true that white collar, urban liberals sometimes punch down at rural, blue collar white people. It does hurt them politically.

    I’m having trouble seeing anything Trump says about anyone other than high-level elected officials as punching up though. Attacks on the sitting president are punching up by definition, but the challenger always does that.

    It seems more to me that he’s telling people who don’t feel good about their position in society that there’s someone below them. That was the message of slavery, of apartheid, and of Hitler. I find it hard not to condemn those who were receptive to it.


  • Persuadable voters seemed really focused on prices. It’s hard not to be condescending here. Eggs are expensive because of bird flu. Rent is high because not enough housing is being built, mostly limited by local issues. Gas is high because of Putin’s war. Anyone who thinks electing Trump will bring those prices down because they were lower last time he was president is fucking clueless.

    I’m interested to see how much of a factor unenthusiastic Democrats were. Trump got about the same number of votes he did in 2020, but Harris got far fewer than Biden. It looks like a bunch of people who voted last time didn’t vote this time. For them, the concerns the author dismisses might have been more important.




  • The trend is that when the economy is bad for the average person, it hurts the incumbent.

    I don’t think the people whose votes swung the election in Trump’s favor know how tariffs work or what policies Musk has in mind. They don’t even know why eggs are expensive (bird flu); they just know things were cheaper last time Trump was president.

    Of course that’s assuming there’s a free and fair election next time around.



  • Every antivaxer knows the Science shows vaccines work

    Having debated a couple who are quite intelligent otherwise, I’m going to have to dispute that.

    Sure, they know broadly that exposing the immune system to something that looks like a pathogen primes it to respond to that pathogen in the future, but they tend to be way off on the implications. I’ve heard it suggested that too many vaccines cause people to run out of immune memory. I’ve heard that all antibodies cause inflammation. I’ve heard that previous attempts to produce coronavirus vaccines killed the majority of test subjects years later.

    None of those claims are true, and the only way they could be true is if everyone in the field of immunology is lying all the time.