I love when completely innocent people say things like “no wrongdoing was acknowledged" and “no criminal charges have ever been brought against me”. I was suspicious before, but if there were no criminal charges then who cares, right? Right?

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    Tbf we don’t know if it was sexting, all we know for sure is that inappropriate messages were sent. Not trying to defend him as his behavior was 100% unacceptable and twitch and Midnight Society were right to drop him, we just don’t know enough to definitively say he was sexting them

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      The accusation from two former Twitch employees, as posted on Twitter, was:

      He got banned because got caught sexting a minor in the then existing Twitch whispers product. He was trying to meet up with her at TwitchCon. The powers that be could read in plain text.

      Beahm’s direct response to that specific allegation is:

      Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more.

      So the detail of “sexting” is “in dispute” in the sense that the predator denies the allegations, but predators always deny allegations. And the fact that his formal denial still included details like “sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate” is really sus.

      So to me, saying “we don’t know if it was sexting, all we know for sure is that inappropriate messages were sent” has the same energy as saying “no criminal charges have ever been brought against me”. We don’t need photo evidence to know he was a creep.

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        As someone who’s never been into sexting… what’s the difference between “leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate”, and “actual sexting”?

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          There’s not one. Sexting is very broad, it does not have to be pictures or direct references to boning. Any sexually-oriented text communication can be considered sexting.

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            Has this changed? It used to be that sexting was explicitly just referring to sending nudes and the surrounding horny conversation. If you’re right, the definition has broadened to include flirting or locker room humor.

            What should really happen is Dr Disrespect should release the DMs (after redacting any details of the minor) so we can stop speculating about how bad this is.

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              Locker room humor generally refers to talk between guys, which could have sexual undertones, but isn’t normally something I’d think of as “sexually-oriented”.

              And flirting can range all the way from smiling long at someone at a cafe or calling them ‘cutie’ in conversation, to me spanking my s.o. as they walk by in a sexy outfit and telling them they’re gonna get punished if they keep distracting me from work- so there’s a huge range in there, some of which I’d definitely consider sexting, if texted to someone.

              Frankly, I have zero sympathy for him, because it’s very easy not to interact over direct message with fans at all, much less underage ones.

              I’ve worked customer-interfacing jobs that required a high level of direct, personal relationship-building before (sometimes even *gasp* with people I found attractive!), and I never once felt compelled to take those communications into a private space, and there was never even a potential for those people to have been kids.

              You don’t “stumble into” private messages with a minor that “get out of hand”.

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        So to me, saying “we don’t know if it was sexting,

        They may have not known the source and tweet wording. I certainly didn’t.

        /edit: I see it’s in the article as well.

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        To me, the word sexting implies very explicitly sexual content. If it’s with a minor, far more mild content could still be inappropriate.

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        Probably not but I’ve been on the Internet long enough to know not to jump to conclusions without more information

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        Personally I don’t think these people should be having private conversations with minors at all. It’s fucking weird and stupid and just leaves them open to this kind of allegations.