Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.

  • Necrifyre@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    21 minutes ago

    I’ve tried Vivaldi before in the past and it’s UI and cluttered interface turned me way off. I’ve got my own concerns about it still that hasn’t made me jump to it. That being, it relies on the Chrome Web Store to install extensions. If Google themselves decided not to have something on that store and you’re using it on Vivaldi, well you’re SOL.

    That’s an advantage for Firefox, that has it’s own extensions. Some of us are stuck with Firefox despite their interestingly bad choices and historical lack of fulfilling promises on their own behalf. There are still key advantages with Firefox than most browsers.

    And even if some of us are tired of Firefox at anyway, we’ve got its forks to use.

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      5 minutes ago

      It’s my secondary browser. Pretty much just for HDR on YouTube. Firefox still can’t do it.

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      2 hours ago

      I’m on librewolf just now having used vivaldi for about three years as my daily. Great browser, I just fancied swapping the chromium problems for gecko problems for a while :D

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    There’s a name I haven’t heard for a while, but kudos I guess. Been using Brave for the blue moon when I need a browser with unreasonable access to subsystems (like yearly perhaps) and I know they have suckage, but yearly. Any reason to change (linux)?

    Personally, Zen and the art of less bullshit. YMMV.

  • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
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    2 hours ago

    Seems much of Lemmy is still married to Firefox despite all their slop and Alphabet funding.

    I’m going to keep beating the Vivaldi drum as their mission has always been clear. Yes I understand the chromium backbone, but as long as uBlock continues to work I’m staying on board.

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      2 hours ago

      You can like one thing without having to shit on the other. Firefox is fine. Vivaldi is cool. Simple as that. Not everything is a team sport.

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        57 minutes ago

        The browser wars require browser fighting words, I am always happy to hear critique about these products… especially in 2026 when the corpo’s meta game is to completely stifle any and all bad PR / reviews / discussion.

      • saltesc@lemmy.world
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        46 minutes ago

        Nah, they don’t just like it; they’re married to it. And with that into the clan that wanders around the steppes, downvoting every thing that challenges them and their beloved. This is, in essence, The Browser War that really doesn’t have any other participants.

        Is their beloved good? lol, well it’s constantly in the news for all the wrong reasons. Is it a good experience? If you’re into being a sub, yes. Does it perform well? Such questions are not allowed in the clan, but they believe it to be so based on clan size.

        Most of all, they swear against Chromium, but park their Steam icons right next to Firefox on their desktop trays.

        There is no mercy for anyone seen not using Firefox. Mixed-browser friendships are an abomination. Not caring much about extensions is death.

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          15 minutes ago

          Seems more like you’re explaining why you think others shouldn’t like it.

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          34 minutes ago

          What browser do you use? If you hate Chrome and Firefox, that’s really going to limit your choices. Derivatives of both of those must be forbidden too because all of those would cease to exist if the base browsers vanished.

          Something WebKit based? Or are you using something based on the Goanna fork of Gecko?

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      2 hours ago

      there’s also something to be said for having a backwards-compatible configuration and history that stretches over 25 years. it’s why i stayed on gecko when switching browser.

      Edit: apparently vivaldi is closed-source? huh.

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      That Chromium backbone is exactly why. Firefox or forks of it are preferred. Other browsers using different engines can also be recommended, but I only know of some WIP projects right now. Also, Vivaldi is proprietary, not open source.

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        25 minutes ago

        Oh wait it’s Chromium?! I have things that need that to work, so even tho I EXCLUSIVELY use FF forks for browsing on my computer, I have to dip into edge (eww) for those web applets to work. Would Vavldi be a good alternative? Better than… ugh… BRAVE, anyway?

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          17 minutes ago

          Yes, Vivaldi is a good chromium browser when someoddball site doesn’t work.

          You know what works great with FF&Forks; ad-blockers that havn’t aren’t sellouts.

          • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            15 minutes ago

            Perfect, I’ll snag that for the like four hardware things I have that need Chromium for settings, and continue using FF forks for anything real!

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          4 minutes ago

          Yeah, or just use Ungoogled Chromium, that’s about as raw as it gets without any proprietary shit.

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      59 minutes ago

      Continuing to use Firefox so that Google has to keep wasting their money on it to avoid the antitrust lawsuit >>>

      As someone who’s extremely picky about my browsers/extensions/etc AND who’s forced to use Edge and Chrome at work…. I make due with Firefox because everything else is just off enough that I can’t commit to ‘em longterm

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        55 minutes ago

        Why would you cast tabs specifically to a TV and not just cast to the entire TV Itself and just make it a big pseudo monitor? 🤔

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            17 minutes ago

            But you can do that if you cast directly from desktop too lol, maybe I’m just misunderstanding what exactly is going on here. I swear it’s way simpler / reliable to just cast directly from the OS, at least in my experience 🤷