• psmgx@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1608·
    6 months ago

    Is anyone really surprised? of course 4chan posts are russian propaganda, this time they just got lazy.

    at this point you can assume 90% of *chan posts are basically agit-prop. the actual weirdos post on reddit now

    • mommykink@lemmy.worldEnglish
      391·
      6 months ago

      Only on /pol and /b. Most of the blue boards are still populated by autistic obsessives for their favorite hobbies.

      • Soulg@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        399·
        6 months ago

        Nah 4chan is nothing but nazis. I know because a bunch of people who have never been there keep saying so.

    • Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      171·
      6 months ago

      Most of 4chan has nothing to do with politics or propaganda. The ones that are reposted mostly all come from two boards. /b/ and /pol/. Also your reddit comment is weird cause reddit is just full of bots now.

    • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      6 months ago

      There was a time recently when Internet connection to Russia got severed for a few hours and a lot of people wrote posts about how friendly and polite people on the Internet were during that time.

    • DaddleDew@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      6 months ago

      9Gag is pretty bad with them as well. They used to push anti-vax and anti-mask disinformation with obvious bad faith arguments there during the COVID period. Then when the “special military operation” started in Ukraine they immediately switched to posting pro-Russia bullshit.

      Until then I was only thinking this sort of nonsense was there as a result of the website being more open to diverse political views, for better or worse. But that sudden switch made me realize that it was actually a team of people trying to sow the seeds of disarray in any way they could for the Western world by pushing disinformation like this on websites mostly frequented by young adult males, who can be vulnerable to radicalization. To think back to it, it was obvious that they were using a bot farm to upvote their content as well. I haven’t set foot on that echo chamber or propaganda and conspiracy nonsense since then. I can only assume this sort of thing is still going on there.

    • SkyezOpen@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      6 months ago

      It’s always been agitprop for one thing or another. Hell, I was an edgy teen over a decade ago and there was always a BBC thread and a WHITES ONLY thread running at all times, and both were interspersed about how jews wanted blacks to cuck all the white guys. Truly unhinged shit.

  • Varyag@lemm.eeEnglish
    1041·
    6 months ago

    I mean even without that slip up the rest of the message still gives them away. Who the fuck would say that without being a vatnik shill.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      23·
      6 months ago

      I guess it depends on what breaks. Some random valve snaps? There’s probably two or more backups.

      Some random distiller happens to spontaneously explode in a random smoking accident? Probably not quite so easy to fix.

      • someguy3@lemmy.caEnglish
        12·
        6 months ago

        Any decent bomb or missile is going to do a lot more than break a valve.

        • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          171·
          6 months ago

          That was indeed implied, yes. Refineries are built pretty damage-resistant, because otherwise any random breakage would make them go up in flames.

          Although… No promises about Russian safety systems.

          • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.spaceEnglish
            18·
            6 months ago

            The fractionating columns, however, are bespoke parts that are costly and have long lead times, and also are large and fragile, at least from the point of view of a properly targeted missile. Before the war, Russia relied on Western specialist firms to provide those, which is no longer an option.

          • someguy3@lemmy.caEnglish
            8·
            6 months ago

            Well damage resistant to normal operations and prevent cascade failures. But the damage resistant part doesn’t extend to bombs.

    • Io Sapsai 🌱@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      6 months ago

      Country standards from the typewriter era. In Bulgaria we have a different layout from the Russian one, using the same Cyrillic letters (stuff like э and ы that we don’t use) but most people use the “phonetic” keyboard which is the one you describe. Also in casual conversations a lot of people don’t even bother to use Cyrillic and go with latin instead even if it’s not official or standardised in any way.

        • Io Sapsai 🌱@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          6 months ago

          You get used to it. You just write the sound, sh, j, ya(often weitten as q), ch, yu. ь we barely use unless when you write what you would spell as ë in Russian, we don’t use that letter at all! We use a lot of ъ (sounds like uuhh). It’s usually spelled as y or a.

          It’s usually more annoying to switch keyboards all the time, but typing in Latin script feels wrong and I feel like it changes my “written voice”.

          • crispy_kilt@feddit.deEnglish
            1·
            6 months ago

            Same here with Russian (by the way, fuck putler and fuck his dumb fucking war and victory for, and glory to, Ukraine). It was quite common to use Latin in the 90s and early 00s for SMS because Cyrillic would either not be supported at all or severely reduce the number of characters. Nowadays very few people use Latin, it’s more the other way around, the odd foreign word is written in Cyrillic. To me it feels weird to use Latin, because it simply doesn’t work very well. See Polish - they have to use weird workarounds that look like czszkzrcz as a replacement for a single ж, ч, щ.

            Interesting to learn about ъ being pronounced like uh in Bulgarian! In Russian it’s a modifier like ь and has no sound of its own. Ъ is called “hardness marker” while ь is “softness marker”. Not sure about the English translation though.

    • lengau@midwest.socialEnglish
      8·
      6 months ago

      Dvorak Simplified Keyboard intensifies

      Different keyboard layouts exist for various reasons. It’s not always a great idea to try to unify things like that.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        6 months ago

        On one hand I agree. On the other hand being a dvorak user has been a massive pain in my ass (but a significantly smaller pain in my wrists)

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          6 months ago

          Eh, as a Dvorak vim user, I haven’t had many issues. I just hotkey swap between Dvorak and QWERTY as needed and things largely work out.

          Things could be a lot better, like if games and whatnot would read use key codes instead of letters for key bindings. WASD should silently map to ,AOE (that was painful to type on my phone’s QWERTY keyboard), and that only works in 1/4 or so of games I play.

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              6 months ago

              Ah, the unenlightened plebs. :)

              Yup, my typo rate goes way up when I use anyone else’s computer. After a few minutes, it settles down and I can be almost productive, but those first few minutes suck.

      • gentooer@programming.devEnglish
        4·
        6 months ago

        I truly don’t understand qwertz. That being said, in Flanders we use azerty, while the Dutch use qwerty, despite us speaking the same language.

        • Tryptaminev@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          6 months ago

          all those layouts are legacy from mechanical typewriters. There pressing keys next to each other sometimes caused the levers to interlock. So letters that often follow each other were put away from each other. And somehow this created the regional flavors of where the q,w,z,a,y are. maybe other letters too, but these are the ones i’ve encountered.

  • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    6 months ago

    I appreciate the Basterds reference. 🫵😉

    Though honestly, without keyboard knowledge, I would have assumed changing Belgium’s name for something else is a white supremacist dogwhistle. This is 4chan afterall.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      6 months ago

      It’s really not hard to look up keyboard layouts. I can recognize Cyrillic characters and don’t know anything else about the script, but that’s just a search away.

  • monk@lemmy.unboiled.infoEnglish
    427·
    6 months ago

    Hate to rain on your parade, but it’s not like they missed a Shift for a magical language-switch-while-pressed. Mistyping it that way is non-trivial because default language switching is non-trivial.

      • Vivendi@lemmy.zipEnglish
        4·
        6 months ago

        But it’s true tho. You need to do Super+Space or Alt+Shift to switch languages. On mobile you either swipe on the space key to switch the layout or you have a dedicated language change button.

        Two different layouts are not on the same map, so input modifiers like level-2 and level-3 can’t magically change a Latin keyboard into a Cyrillic

        I’ve spent all of my life using multiple layouts مثل این

        • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          21·
          6 months ago

          I have Greek (for math) and Japanese (because I periodically get depressed that I’m mono-lingual, and get convinced I can learn it “this time”) keyboards installed on my phone, and that’s how I access them as well. My guess is that there there are some ways to switch languages that make it easier to make a mistake, but I can’t say for sure since I don’t have a whole lot of knowledge on the subject.

    • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      10·
      6 months ago

      Sure if you ignore the fact that very few regions use the cyrillic alphabet. Mistyping like that is a good bit harder, hell me typing out þe þorn takes a bit of effort on my phone.