ITT: People uncritically reading Ukrainian state propaganda saying the same thing it has been saying since the beginning of the war and has to say in order to maintain its funding sources and willing partners.
Look I’m not just a ml who loves Russia, I am just someone who reads a story like this and sees it for what it is- state propaganda saying state propaganda. It is pretty funnysad the same people who will cheer this article will look at RT and scream about how it is Ruzzian state lies.
This is a war. You can’t trust either sides propaganda. This is not independent, not verified and not really journalism
Thank the lord someone said it.
That may be, but he still right. The frontlines are proof. Russia has failed to capture significant amount of territory in 3 over years. All the changes have been comically minor relative to the manpower and resources used, and so far this year, Russia has actually been losing more territory than they captured.
It was a special operation at the beginning. It’s still going.
I think it’s safe to say the war isn’t going how Russia wants it to, or zelensky would have been replaced/killed by now
Oh no, you so smart. We so stupid. Praise you.
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People know what’s the deal. Especially people here. Things have changed, that’s not news, you can read that in European newspapers and you can read it between the lines in Russian ones.
This is the most thought you’ve ever put into a responce. Try harder next time.
Brilliant! Ukraine is today in a better position than at any time before in the war. I hope eu can continue to increase support and by doing so create a new European defence paradigm with Ukraine at it’s core.
Ukraine isn’t at the core of Europe though
Read again slowly.
Sit down and actually think about your statements.
with Ukraine at it’s core
At the core of the defense paradigm. Since Ukraine has a gigantic military (currently more personnel than even France), pretty cutting edge work on drone and anti-drone warfare and has been fighting for years against the EU’s biggest land threat. They’re not saying Ukraine is at the core of Europe the continent…
Why is Russia the “EU’s biggest land threat”?
That’s exactly the point. Allying with Ukraine is the main thing that drives that.
Previously the European states learned that letting some major power go around willy-nilly annexing strips of land and entire states from their neighbors does not end well. They’re on Russia’s list of unfriendly countries, are subject to Russian influence operations that are not especially appreciated and there is some evidence to suggest that Russia would seek to reclaim lands from eastern EU states if given the opportunity. Plus the occasional bombing and constant rhetoric against them. So obviously they will prefer to back Ukraine rather than letting Russia absorb it, become stronger and start eyeing the next country.
that letting some major power go around willy-nilly annexing strips of land and entire states from their neighbors does not end well
Which power was that?
and there is some evidence to suggest that Russia would seek to reclaim lands from eastern EU states if given the opportunity
What evidence is that?
Because, again, the logic from you chicken hawks seems only to be that Europe must support Ukraine fighting Russia, because it is obvious Russia is an enemy, based on the fact that they are fighting Ukraine.
Notice the issue there? Nowhere is there any threat to Europe listed.
and constant rhetoric against them
wait, so rhetoric is a casus belli now?
In that case, isn’t this NAFO style crap direct aggression? They’re very loud about how they’re willing to fight to the last Ukrainian - of course, not when they’d be in danger themselves - but how it’s good that Russians are dying.
Russia has made no threat I’m aware of to attack any EU member. If you have evidence of such, present it. Otherwise, your weasel words are just that.
the United States is halfway around the world, that doesn’t stop us from projecting power
How’s that working out for you?
Doesn’t matter how big your dick is when you’re trying to fuck a hornet nest.
It’s the only one that has real experience with modern warfare and technology in this century. So they have know how.
It’s going to be the outpost for the new EU/Nato does not matter where it geographically is, maybe you took that too literally.
Why does Europe want to ally with Ukraine? That will cause the conflict with Russia that you’re presumably saying we need defense against.
cause conflict with Russia
Are you talking about a new conflict and not the current literal invasion? Because they kinda already crossed that bridge. Then it got blown up like 2 or 3 times.
Sorry, are you trying to claim that Russia has invaded an EU member?
No we use logic and not this back to the future Wodka brain trolling logic. Therefore we do not claim that, no…
Ok, so what literal invasion are you talking about?
Europe includes Ukraine, and they are already allies, just without a mutual defense agreement.
Ukraine is not a member of any defense pact or the EU.
Ukraine receives security assurances under the Budapest memorandum (which Russia violated).
“Europe” is not a signatory to the Budapest memorandum. Neither is NATO, nor the EU. So how this applies to “Europe”, which is what the conversation you’re responding to is about, is a mystery at best.
The UK and US are signatories. NATO is not. Considering that NATO willfully violated the UN Charter (which the Budapest memorandum rests upon) by bombing Yugoslavia in 1999, as well as later actions, it’s a pretty selective to claim that that is applicable.
Zelensky is a traitor to Ukrainians. He’s making deals with the US and helping Israel. I don’t believe we’re being told everything anymore. If the world wanted to stop Putin and help Ukraine, they would. I’m not denying reality - Russia did invade Ukraine. However, the world betrayed Ukraine in 2014 when they let Russia take Crimea. This is just an exercise in supporting military industrial complex. There was an attack in Romania just a few days ago, and NATO did absolutely nothing (and as somebody from the Netherlands it’s my duty to say - fuck Rutte, goddamn traitor).
Why do you have a brand new account? What happened to treehuggers 1-5?
What are you talking about
Your obvious ban evasion.
Whaat?? Why’s Zelensky a traitor?
Because Russian bot account.
Sigh.
I don’t want to even respond, but did you check with Ukrainians if they think Zelensky is a traitor?
What aren’t we told? A grand conspiracy? Everything is being told, everything, you just need to listen.
Ok.
If Putin hadn’t decided to forcibly annex parts of Ukraine in the first place, many Russian sons would still be alive and Zelenskyy perhaps wouldn’t be seeking help from the “wrong” people (not that I think that’s an entirely valid way to think about it.)
And as best as I can tell Zelenskyy is not in favour of the way Israel is going about what they’re doing in Palestine, and I’m sure he very much recognises the parallels with what’s happening to his own country.
yeah, pretty sure zelenskyy looks at what israel is doing to a palestine and recognizes it as what russia wants to do to ukraine. He’s not going to be friendly toward a country that embodies russia’s aspirations for brutality.
Are you okay?
Said the tankie
Iran is supplying drones to russia. Of course they aren’t on their side.
I am aware of that. I am also aware that the US attacked Iran.
Can’t imagine Ukraine would harbor terribly much sympathy for Iran given the tens of thousands of Shahed drones that have been bombarding their cities that were either made in Iran or based on Iranian drone designs licensed to Russia. They probably figure that if Iran was fine starting this by selling such weapons to Russia that were certain to be used on Ukraine, then turnabout is fair play. They have basically no economy in Ukraine so they’re desperate for any way to make a buck to put back into military production for fending off their gigantic neighbor, anyway.
TRUMP attacked Iran. The rest of us want nothing to do with it. Only about 6 people support this war, and all of them are MAGA traitors
Trump won the popular vote. Period. You can’t have your country elect a pedonazi and then pretend like he is not your democratically elected president. He always have at least 40% of the population approval. He’s the potus and represents the US.
No he didn’t, he cheated, and EVERYBODY knows it! This ridiculous idea that the only time in his entire life that he didn’t cheat on anything was the one election that he had to win to avoid a life sentence in prison, and he had the assistance of his two best friends Putin and Musk with the best financed and experienced hacking teams on the planet, but he chose to play it “Fair & Square,” because that’s the kind of guy he is.
Anyone who believes that deserves to get conned.
I’d like to believe you but do you have any kinf of proof that this happened? Otherwise it would be just like him, whem he claims h won against Biden. I have no doubt that he will cheat, now that he is president, but I don’t think he did at the last election. Maga is a real thing, half of the US is facsist.
Maybe if the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries didn’t immediately slam the lid on any discussion of investigating the election by declaring the election “Fair & Square” immediately after the polls closed, instead of demanding any kind of verification from corrupt traitors.
All they had to do was flip enough votes in one race, in seven states. That’s all. And he won every single one of them in a highly contested, extremely tight race? Simply not plausible, and not even statistically probable.
Those swing states had millions of straight Democratic tickets with Trump at the top. Who votes like that? Have you ever met someone who votes like that? Ever see one on TV? Wouldn’t news orgs want to put together a panel of those Democratic Trump voters, and see what’s up with them? So why didn’t we see any? Maybe because they couldn’t find a single person who voted that way?
Common on, just use your basic Critical Thinking Skills, and you understand that the whole thing stinks. Does it makes sense that MAGA would ever do ANYTHING “Fair & Square?”
Ukraine offered to help defend Iran’s neighbouring countries against drone attacks since they have experience with that. Also ukraine has issues with Israel as well, they are buying stolen ukrainian grain from russia.
Iran is not attacking neighboring countries. They are attacking US military bases in those countries. It’s self defense. If those countries want to be US bitches, then they should reap what they sowed
Not even remotely close to a valid response to what they said.
Reread, every word.
Iran is not attacking neighboring countries. They are attacking US military bases in those countries.
Absolutely delusional
It;s true, Deal with it
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Riiiiiiight
They also bombed Syria and Azerbaijan which have zero American bases
The fact that the US is an extremist authoritarian regime does not excuse the fact that Iran is an extremist authoritarian regime. Iran is gladly attacking gulf countries. They’ve been wanting to do that for decades and finally they have an excuse to do it.
The sad part is that civilians are getting killed in this war between authoritarian narcissists.
I mean, fine. Just saying what Ukraine offered. I don’t think zelensky betrayed anyone. Offering to help defend things is something else than bombing someone.
Kinda sounds like Zelensky is doing what he needs to do to survive, and if that means allying with Israel then so be it, because he has his own country to deal with.
And he’s right to do so. Zelensky’s job is to kick the Russians out of his country, he has to do whatever it takes to make that happen, and he has to put the lives of his citizens first. Yes it sucks but he has to stop the genocide in his own country.
War is a terrible thing, leaders have to make terrible decisions.Yeah I think he is doing excellent considering the situation. And he’s not even working with Israel I think considering they are fucking then over by buying stolen grain from Russia.
It’s insane that some people think Zelensky should make a stand against Israel. Like wtf. He has other priorities right now.
That will change. The first 1560 days oft a 3 days special military Operation are always the hardest!!!111
is that why RUSSIA " is researching ways of forcing the territories they already hold to be permanent" recently.
Take it all and do better for the people within
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
wont be satisfied until crimea is theres again. China can chip and retak historic lands, “norther manchuria”, although they are pretty much taking over russia economically(through thier natural resources in thier remote regions.
Yeah, people see China sending stuff to Russia and think they’re helping, because they’ve been told they’re “allies”. China is gaining a lot from Russia’s failure though. If they don’t actually take over land by the end of this, they will effectively control all the resources in large parts of modern day Russia.
I saw a comment not too long ago about how China should convince Russia to get out of the war, as if it’s harming China. People just don’t understand the geopolitics going on. I don’t expect them to, but people should at least be aware no state is doing anything out of kindness. It’s always at least attempting to benefit themselves. For Europe, Ukraine losing would be a horrible result, for example. There may be a humanitarian aspect, but there’s always something being gained.
No bc pootin won’t allow China to take over.
Lol it’d be wild to see China own Russia and a lot of Chinese ppl move in.
If they don’t actually take over land by the end of this, they will effectively control all the resources in large parts of modern day Russia.
China has plenty of land already. Why would they officially want something with piss poor infrastructure and corrupt officials. It’s a lot easier just to buy what they want, specially now when Russia doesn’t really have an option but to sell. It’s also politically much, much more easier than actually moving borders. Also, that’s what China has been doing already for quite a while in Africa (and likely in other places too).
Are you kidding? China has always wanted the eastern part of Russia. Also, China not wanting it would apply to Russia too, right? If it’s worthless, why is anyone claiming it? It obviously isn’t worthless. At minimum, control of the coast and rivers are valuable. There’s also tons of natural resources there.
It’s a lot easier just to buy what they want, specially now when Russia doesn’t really have an option but to sell. It’s also politically much, much more easier than actually moving borders.
That is buying what they want. And moving borders isn’t that hard. They just need to reach an agreement. It’s not like they have physically go and move some line. Borders don’t exist in reality. It’s just what states agree to say they control. The biggest issue would be going in and collecting taxes and whatnot. China’s got the beurocratic infrastructure to handle that pretty easily though, and it’s not like there’s many people or much wealth (in the people) there anyway. It’s all about the resources. Like you said, they’ve been doing it in Africa. Why wouldn’t they do it in their backyard?
And moving borders isn’t that hard.
It actually kind of is. Depending on the laws on both countries. There was a petition that Norway would’ve gifted a top of one mountain to Finland when Finland celebrated 100 years of independence. Border would’ve moved something like 20 meters in the middle of nowhere, without any resources or pretty much anything else of any value. It would’ve just made the officially highest spot in Finland a bit higher.
It just wasn’t legally possible. Constitution in Norway says that the only way to lose land is to lose it in a war and changing their constitution isn’t really practical just for that kind of feat. Also there was more or less serious discussion that what if Finland claims a “war” against Norway and conquers that hilltop, but that would’ve meant that Finland (not a NATO member at a time) would be in a war with a NATO country, which is not trivial either.
There was also legal issues on Finland side of things too, but those would’ve been far simpler to resolve.
I don’t know about legal situation in Russia nor in China, so that might not apply, but in general countries tend to have legal limits on how they can lose or gain land. China has not annexed areas from Africa, they’ve just bought the rights for resources and use them as they see fit, but internationally agreed borders stay where they are. If they actually took land from Russia that would cause other kinds of legal issues, like having to build stuff in there to meet their legal minimum standards, set up administration and whatever their legal system requires. So, in many ways it’s just far easier to buy what they want and leave the border and land ownership politics out of the equation.
Drone tech has had exactly the same effect machine guns and precise artillery had in WW1: an advantage of the defense over the offense, which turns the war into one of attrition.
Neither side is able to do sweeping maneuvers and break through defensive lines until the other side’s ability to fight is completely exhausted.
This war won’t end before Putin is gone, one way or the other.Why would that be, that drone warfare advantages defense?
WW1 era weapons advancements like machine guns advantaged defense, because these new weapons were not easily mobile. But drones are extremely mobile.
The main difference between WWI and Today’s trench warfare the the level of intelligence available, combined with the ability to precision-strike.
It’s interesting because drones are very mobile, able to be deployed close to the front, and extremely deadly, but simultaneously limited. The heavier payload ones can also be longer range, but counter-UAV technology (mostly jamming) makes these harder to use. In comparison, the shorter-range drones can be sent via cable - impossible to jam, but limited flight distance due to the trailing wire + weight.
The application of drones on the battlefield also favors the defender. The small-payload drones are exceptional at taking out moving vehicles and light infantry, and overhead imagery (via drone or satellite) is nearly omnipresent. With neither side able to secure complete air power, the normal target softening approach of airstrikes followed by troop movement isn’t viable, and then drones take out even the most spread-out groups moving forward. The result is that the doctrinal 3:1 attacker ratio that favors defenders is even more lopsided with drones. I fear that we’ll see a greatly increased use of autonomous weaponry as a result, which is extremely dangerous for humanity.
I’m pretty sure that russia started this war hastily without enough contemplation; otherwise they would have noticed they’re losing more than they’re winning, even if they’re “winning”. namely they’re losing their international respect.
Typical western propaganda . But Russia keeps take lands if even it is too slow . Russia depleted but Ukraine too !
Good, screw Russia. I hope they lose everything.
We’ve worked down from “as long as it’s done in a week” to “as long as the progress isn’t zero”.
Ukraine has funding to buy Western weapons for at least another year, so this isn’t where it ends.
Da!
