• treesartlife@lemmy.world
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    20 days ago

    Zelensky is a traitor to Ukrainians. He’s making deals with the US and helping Israel. I don’t believe we’re being told everything anymore. If the world wanted to stop Putin and help Ukraine, they would. I’m not denying reality - Russia did invade Ukraine. However, the world betrayed Ukraine in 2014 when they let Russia take Crimea. This is just an exercise in supporting military industrial complex. There was an attack in Romania just a few days ago, and NATO did absolutely nothing (and as somebody from the Netherlands it’s my duty to say - fuck Rutte, goddamn traitor).

    • NoiseColor @lemmy.world
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      19 days ago

      Sigh.

      I don’t want to even respond, but did you check with Ukrainians if they think Zelensky is a traitor?

      What aren’t we told? A grand conspiracy? Everything is being told, everything, you just need to listen.

    • Visstix@lemmy.world
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      20 days ago

      Iran is supplying drones to russia. Of course they aren’t on their side.

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          20 days ago

          Can’t imagine Ukraine would harbor terribly much sympathy for Iran given the tens of thousands of Shahed drones that have been bombarding their cities that were either made in Iran or based on Iranian drone designs licensed to Russia. They probably figure that if Iran was fine starting this by selling such weapons to Russia that were certain to be used on Ukraine, then turnabout is fair play. They have basically no economy in Ukraine so they’re desperate for any way to make a buck to put back into military production for fending off their gigantic neighbor, anyway.

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          20 days ago

          TRUMP attacked Iran. The rest of us want nothing to do with it. Only about 6 people support this war, and all of them are MAGA traitors

          • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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            20 days ago

            Trump won the popular vote. Period. You can’t have your country elect a pedonazi and then pretend like he is not your democratically elected president. He always have at least 40% of the population approval. He’s the potus and represents the US.

            • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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              19 days ago

              No he didn’t, he cheated, and EVERYBODY knows it! This ridiculous idea that the only time in his entire life that he didn’t cheat on anything was the one election that he had to win to avoid a life sentence in prison, and he had the assistance of his two best friends Putin and Musk with the best financed and experienced hacking teams on the planet, but he chose to play it “Fair & Square,” because that’s the kind of guy he is.

              Anyone who believes that deserves to get conned.

              • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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                19 days ago

                I’d like to believe you but do you have any kinf of proof that this happened? Otherwise it would be just like him, whem he claims h won against Biden. I have no doubt that he will cheat, now that he is president, but I don’t think he did at the last election. Maga is a real thing, half of the US is facsist.

                • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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                  18 days ago

                  Maybe if the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries didn’t immediately slam the lid on any discussion of investigating the election by declaring the election “Fair & Square” immediately after the polls closed, instead of demanding any kind of verification from corrupt traitors.

                  All they had to do was flip enough votes in one race, in seven states. That’s all. And he won every single one of them in a highly contested, extremely tight race? Simply not plausible, and not even statistically probable.

                  Those swing states had millions of straight Democratic tickets with Trump at the top. Who votes like that? Have you ever met someone who votes like that? Ever see one on TV? Wouldn’t news orgs want to put together a panel of those Democratic Trump voters, and see what’s up with them? So why didn’t we see any? Maybe because they couldn’t find a single person who voted that way?

                  Common on, just use your basic Critical Thinking Skills, and you understand that the whole thing stinks. Does it makes sense that MAGA would ever do ANYTHING “Fair & Square?”

        • Visstix@lemmy.world
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          20 days ago

          Ukraine offered to help defend Iran’s neighbouring countries against drone attacks since they have experience with that. Also ukraine has issues with Israel as well, they are buying stolen ukrainian grain from russia.

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            20 days ago

            Iran is not attacking neighboring countries. They are attacking US military bases in those countries. It’s self defense. If those countries want to be US bitches, then they should reap what they sowed

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              20 days ago

              Not even remotely close to a valid response to what they said.

              Reread, every word.

            • Lysol@lemmy.world
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              20 days ago

              The fact that the US is an extremist authoritarian regime does not excuse the fact that Iran is an extremist authoritarian regime. Iran is gladly attacking gulf countries. They’ve been wanting to do that for decades and finally they have an excuse to do it.

              The sad part is that civilians are getting killed in this war between authoritarian narcissists.

            • Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              20 days ago

              Iran is not attacking neighboring countries. They are attacking US military bases in those countries.

              Absolutely delusional

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                  20 days ago
                  • Crowne Plaza Hotel, Manama 1 March 2026
                  • Bahrain International Airport 1 March 2026
                  • Mina Salman Port 2 March 2026
                  • Port of Duqm 1 March 2026
                  • Fairmont The Palm, Palm Jumeirah, Dubai 28 February 2026
                  • Etihad Towers complex 1 March 2026
                  • Amazon Web Services data centre 1 March 2026

                  Riiiiiiight

            • Visstix@lemmy.world
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              20 days ago

              I mean, fine. Just saying what Ukraine offered. I don’t think zelensky betrayed anyone. Offering to help defend things is something else than bombing someone.

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                20 days ago

                Kinda sounds like Zelensky is doing what he needs to do to survive, and if that means allying with Israel then so be it, because he has his own country to deal with.
                And he’s right to do so. Zelensky’s job is to kick the Russians out of his country, he has to do whatever it takes to make that happen, and he has to put the lives of his citizens first. Yes it sucks but he has to stop the genocide in his own country.
                War is a terrible thing, leaders have to make terrible decisions.

                • NoiseColor @lemmy.world
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                  19 days ago

                  It’s insane that some people think Zelensky should make a stand against Israel. Like wtf. He has other priorities right now.

                • Visstix@lemmy.world
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                  20 days ago

                  Yeah I think he is doing excellent considering the situation. And he’s not even working with Israel I think considering they are fucking then over by buying stolen grain from Russia.

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      20 days ago

      If Putin hadn’t decided to forcibly annex parts of Ukraine in the first place, many Russian sons would still be alive and Zelenskyy perhaps wouldn’t be seeking help from the “wrong” people (not that I think that’s an entirely valid way to think about it.)

      And as best as I can tell Zelenskyy is not in favour of the way Israel is going about what they’re doing in Palestine, and I’m sure he very much recognises the parallels with what’s happening to his own country.

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        20 days ago

        yeah, pretty sure zelenskyy looks at what israel is doing to a palestine and recognizes it as what russia wants to do to ukraine. He’s not going to be friendly toward a country that embodies russia’s aspirations for brutality.