Deepseek v4 pro. Cheap af. Just as capable
Sigh. None of this is surprising in the least. The cost of AI infrastructure and compute (coupled with the complexity of the chain) makes it prohibitively expensive.
It only has appeared cheap because of investor money flowing like Niagara on the off-chance that it could be made cheap enough to be profitable after getting everyone addicted to using it. I really don’t think it’s there, and it’s definitely not cheap enough to continue flying for free much longer.
I don’t understand how everyone repeats this shit… as if we have never ever before seen a renewable asset… no, it’s not expensive to run them. It is expensive to give away usage. It is expensive to train. It is expensive to buy hardware. It is very very cheap to run. But hypercapitalism ruins everyone
So how do they get back the money spent on hardware and training? They also have to update their hardware occasionally. It is expensive to run.
Is your argument that training is expensive and therefore it is expensive to run?
I’ve been using it for well over a year now.
Hit my limit in 1 day and canceled.
Yup, same. x57 for GPT 5.5 now?! The GitHub agent architecture was hot as hell and allowed me to work on projects without ever bootstrapping it locally, but there is no way I’m gonna get sucked into spending hundreds a month. It felt good seeing that $250 refund come through for my yearly plan. I’ll take those funds to Claude or Codex directly. Throttled usage is way better than being fucked over by a glorified reseller.
They’ll throttle you more - it’s just different way of gouging price
Just trying to squeeze it out before the pop.
I guess they are starting to feel the strain of hemorrhaging billions of dollars for data centers.
And yet stock prices SOAR!
My Microsoft stock has not soared. :(
Ha ha! Thats what you get for supporting them financially.
I didn’t? I worked for them and the stock was part of my pay package.
That’s worse.
The market is insane. The valuations for stocks connected in any way to “AI” have no connection to reality whatsoever.
Ever run an AI model locally? If you want the most capability you need a fast GPU with 32-48gb RAM. And that’s all for you, ONE user.
Copilot has millions of users, with tens or hundreds of thousands of them hitting the AI all at once. Each one needs $thousands worth of GPU and RAM dedicated to them for the length of their query processing.
Where do you think the money to buy all that hardware comes from? You see OpenAI buying a double digit percentage of the world’s RAM production, you think they got it on clearance sale?
No, there are investors. Investors who are pouring hundreds of billions into this AI stuff. And they don’t do this because it’s fun, they do it because they expect a BIG return.
So what’s going on is just like your neighborhood drug pusher, only the drug pusher is more honest. He says ‘first hit’s free, man’. AI company says ‘AI models are an easy and cost effective way to modernize your workflow!’; they don’t tell you that once you’ve integrated them and fired all the humans who know how to do the work, the price is gonna go way up.
Because the fact is, there IS a real cost of AI compute. GPU time, or at the large scale, datacenter space, power, cooling, etc.
In another few months to few years, the C-suites will stop huffing the koolaid and will start doing cost-benefit analysis on where AI is and isn’t cost-effective vs. humans. With any luck (for the AI people) by that time the AIs will be good enough that it’s a clear benefit. If not this bubble’s gonna pop.
Has anyone ever actually had a drug dealer giving out free hits?
I feel like that’s the biggest lie DARE ever told.
When I was a teen, I was offered drugs for free more than once, so it’s not all a lie. Maybe it is just uncommon in many places.
I’m Brazilian, BTW.
DARE told so many lies. I was told that if I smoked weed, it would ruin my life and I would become a helpless drug addict. Then I smoked weed and that didn’t happen. Then they got me thinking “what else did they lie to me about?”.
Everyone could’ve seen it coming from mile away
anyone who didnt is a fucking idiot
I’ve got some bad news about our managers and leaders…
tried to explain director, was met with a blank stare.
failing up is real.
Man, enshittification is happening so fast for ai. Imagine the next big thing. It’ll be enshittified prior to release.
This isn’t enshittification in the traditional sense, they haven’t captured the market enough for that. They’re just panicking because they’re burning cash way too fast.
That word is only used correctly about 5% of the times it is used.
Don’t wanna be “that guy”, but if if 95% of the time people use it to generally mean “greedy companies making things shitty to try and wring an extra buck”, then that just is what that word means now.
It leaves a vacuum for the concept it was originally intended to describe, but that’s how she goes.
It wasn’t profitable. This bait and switch was a long time coming.
I’m sure they wanted to drag out the adoption longer than it was viable, too. Didn’t quite get everyone dependent.
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me feeling pimp since ive always hosted my own runners
I run gitea - its same cicd syntax as github. same - selfhosted runners
