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Pupils will be banned from wearing abayas, loose-fitting full-length robes worn by some Muslim women, in France’s state-run schools, the education minister has said.
The rule will be applied as soon as the new school year starts on 4 September.
France has a strict ban on religious signs in state schools and government buildings, arguing that they violate secular laws.
Wearing a headscarf has been banned since 2004 in state-run schools.
This. The whole point of freedom is that every person gets to choose for themselves, and the government should be preserving that choice and limiting elements that take choice away. It’s morally reprehensible to support choice only when it’s choices that you agree with, that’s how state religions became a thing in the first place.
Religion likes to seep into the lives of people that don’t want it. That’s the problem. Religion is fucking up politics and lives around the world. Sure, if you want to be oppressed by sky dad and sky dad leaders, do it in private. I don’t want that religious toxicity anywhere near me. That includes the christo-fascist bastards in high places in the U.S.
You say “freedom of choice of religion” I say “you’re putting it in my fucking face and letting religion decide laws that directly affect my family and I.” Get that religious shit out of my fucking face. Sick of it.
Another commenter mentioned how similar some of the arguments are with far right anti-lgbt arguments are, and I don’t think there’s a better example of it than your comment. “I don’t want to ban it, I just hate it and don’t want to see it, so let’s ban it from anywhere I could run into it”. " ‘You say freedom to love you you want’ I say ‘You’re putting it in my fucking face and letting LGBT activists decide laws that directly affect my family and I’. Get that gay shit out of my face. Sick of it". Don’t you see how that type of rhetoric can be problematic?
I’m sorry, but you’re going to run into people in the world that do and say things you don’t agree with, that’s part of life. If you want to fight to keep it out of government and laws, I’ll be fighting right there with you, but once you extend it to people you’re just silencing and oppressing. Freedom is even more important when you don’t agree with the choices people are making, if you can’t agree with that then I don’t want to be anywhere near the “free” world you help build
I mean, the bible itself says that practicing christianity should happen behind closed doors. [Matthew 6:5 & 6:6].
Wearing a cross necklace is hardly flouting that.
What does the bible have to do with laws banning Muslim clothing?