It does. When the risk isn’t a fine but hitting a curb or raised midsection or wooden pole, people actually slow down. I’m pretty sure I have seen studies on that, but can’t look them up now.
i can point to specific roads in local cities that they probably used for those studies. been that way for a few decades now out in sacramento specifically. they shifted the lanes a little bit, narrowed the road, and moved the curb/sidewalk/crosswalk such that (1) there’s less road to cross and (2) traffic slows down because the road naturally slows down before the crosswalk. also added botts dotts to give a little rumble as you cross the crosswalk in your car.
i don’t think i’ve even taken my foot off the brake on that stretch.
also, note to any y’all who want to visit, it’s a gorgeous walk down the street but you do not want to drive it. this photo does not do the grade justice
Noted car enthusiast NotJustBikes disagrees. And so do several generations of traffic engineers, not just in the Netherlands. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc
Traffic calming doesn’t stop speeding, but it stops ubiquitous speeding - the situation where the speed limit is 50 but traffic flows at 70.
Road design doesn’t really stop people from speeding.
It does. When the risk isn’t a fine but hitting a curb or raised midsection or wooden pole, people actually slow down. I’m pretty sure I have seen studies on that, but can’t look them up now.
i can point to specific roads in local cities that they probably used for those studies. been that way for a few decades now out in sacramento specifically. they shifted the lanes a little bit, narrowed the road, and moved the curb/sidewalk/crosswalk such that (1) there’s less road to cross and (2) traffic slows down because the road naturally slows down before the crosswalk. also added botts dotts to give a little rumble as you cross the crosswalk in your car.
Also roundabouts. Can’t go 40mph through one of those.
Maybe you can’t.
How did you get a video of me?!
i paid you tacos. that landing was worse than i thought
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The data I’ve seen says it does.
If you design a road to be safe to drive 60, people will drive 60 even if you post a limit of 35.
The exceptions are places where there is always a traffic cop waiting to ticket you.
this is Lombard Street in San Francisco
you think anyone’s ever broken the 25mph speed limit on that section of street?
i don’t think i’ve even taken my foot off the brake on that stretch.
also, note to any y’all who want to visit, it’s a gorgeous walk down the street but you do not want to drive it. this photo does not do the grade justice
Yes, if their breaks failed … briefly.
there’d be a car in front of them to brake their descent
Noted car enthusiast NotJustBikes disagrees. And so do several generations of traffic engineers, not just in the Netherlands. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bglWCuCMSWc
Traffic calming doesn’t stop speeding, but it stops ubiquitous speeding - the situation where the speed limit is 50 but traffic flows at 70.
Projection much
Do you have anything to back that up?