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    worse than Biden

    The guy is a fucking pedophile yet “worse than Biden” is needed to convince people

    Talking about having priorities

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      “Biden is old.”

      “Hey, let’s go with a guy that’s equally old, but also a lifelong asshole, felon, rapist, and pedophile with 2 impeachments and a failed presidency already under his belt.”

      “Sounds great to me.”

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      I’m betting it’s not just pedophilia.

      I’m waiting for the documents that show he’s sent hits on victims and threatened their family.

      And still no section 25.

      Still no impeachment.

      And still the MAGA mind churns.

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    51% says Trump is doing a worse job than Biden? WTF is wrong with the other 49%!?

    Biden wasn’t great, but surely anything that’s not bringing the US to the brink of dictatorship and civil war is better than anything that is?

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          I’ve got plenty of criticism of Obama too, but he’s easily the best US president of the 21st century, and it’s not even close. And although nowhere near as good, Biden is still easily #2, because at least he didn’t start two trillion dollar wars for nothing. And although he’s pretty bad, Bush is still easily #3, because for all his many, many faults, at least he didn’t usher in a full-blown fascist dictatorship driven by narcissism and stupidity.

          There’s no easier century to rank presidents.

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          Yeah, at least he reacted to a financial crisis by giving money to people instead of corporations. Not enough money, but it was still going to mostly the right places. When the banks gambled with our money and caused a financial crisis Obama could’ve done the same thing and allocated housing money to people, which would “trickle up” to the banks. Instead he bailed them out with no strings attached so they could continue fucking everyone over.

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      A lot of the time, poll results are based on how the poll is asked. If the questionaire was like: 1 trump worse than biden

      2 external factor affected the situation

      3 i like cheese

      You can see how this is going to affect the final result. There’s a whole science behind how to get the desired result from a poll without just faking the attendees

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        Or - now just hear me out here - it is possible - just possible - that there are people opposed to raping children and ruining the entire country…

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      Yeah but somewhat Biden was running child/organs/other trafficking and/or was a commie who wanted to destroy the US, and/or a satanist and a nazi.

      And probably more things but I’m a bit lost in all the batshit crazy conspi cloud. Anyway: Newsmax, and probably Fox still, won’t say Biden was better. And the other media are lying.

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    Boomers have overstayed their welcome. The spoiled generation took the greatest wealth ever seen, became spoiled by it, sqandered it, and left X, Millennials, Zoomers, and Alpha holding the bag (climate change, broken empire, insurmountable debt, political instability, unstable social safety net, etc.). They will not be missed.

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      Oh that’s nice: for once a young person is pissing on the boomers without lumping us gen-Xers with them.

      Cuz more and more now, I’m being told that I’m a scumbag, the scourge of society and that we all had it easy-peasy in the 80s. Because of course we did: obviously we’re the cause of everything that’s wrong in the world today, and our evil boomer parents even more so!

      Oh well, inter-generational hate will always exist. You will know it too when you get older my young friend…

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      Not wrong. My boomer parent, who is still alive, is the subject of multiple daydreams a day involving a plot of land with a stone on it, no-one observing, and a stream of hot yellow liquid flowing on to it.

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    The only actual thing I’m mad at Biden for is not putting this monster in prison when able.

    Merrick Garland sure is fucking quiet now.

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      FUCK JOE BIDEN!!!

      This motherfucker had ALL OF THESE EPSTEIN FILES and did NOTHING with them. NOTHING!!!

      He did absolutely nothing to punish the wealthy/powerful behind January 6th, he did nothing with the pedophile ring and just peaced out and gave the keys to fucking Nazis.

      He will forever be remembered as a complete failure. His legacy is Trump and letting our democracy get destroyed without any pushback.

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        I’m not even talking about that. That crap was under seal by a (I think GOP appointed) judge. IIRC, there was fuck all Biden could legally do there.

        I’m talking about the open & shut espionage & sedition cases that the Biden DoJ had on Trump and completely squandered.

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          He’s also guilty of enabling, and in some cases directly sending American armed forces to participate in, an internationally-recognized genocide.

          Biden’s name should literally never be able to be spoken without that fact being brought up.

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    Next elections would still be

    One side - 306 (49.7% vote)

    Other side - 232 (48.6% vote)

    and you can do nothing to change this. I can bet on this

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      Next elections would still be

      What next elections?

      Haven’t you heard? The Orange Utan and his fat tramp friend Bannon have already announced that they’ll deploy the SS ICE at polling stations. As if nobody saw that one coming even before Trump inexplicably won the vote in 2024…

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    LOL, what kind of metric is that? Biden may be kinda milquetoast in pursuing criminals like Donvict, but things were actually really quite good under his presidency.

    A better metric is to say that Donvict is the worst president in history - he’s such a dirtbag and a greedy little shit that he may very well destroy this country. He’s that bad.

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      You forget how thoroughly demonized the democrats have been, both by opponents and even by supporters (deservedly in some cases). So just assume that when someone says “worse than Biden” just assume they’re centrist or nearly so, or just some selfish and short-sighted ass who found a leopard eating their face.

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        Correct. We must reject the assumption that Biden was bad in the first place. Overall, he was pretty good, but he really blew it badly in one regard.

        Like all modern Democratic presidents, the first thing they have to do is introduce an Economic Stimulus Plan to fix the mess left by EVERY Republican president - Ford, Bush 41, Bush 43, and Trump. Republicans are historically terrible for the economy, and it’s always up to Democrats to fix it.

        But Biden also had to start a Covid Vaccine Program from scratch. Trump had the vaccine soon after losing, but ignored it in favor of his obsession with planning of his Insurrection, and the theft of hundreds of classified documents. So Biden launched a successful Vaccination program right out of the gate, simultaneous with a successful Economic Stimulus program, that quickly overtook their ambitious goals. For that, he would have been in the Top 15 among presidents.

        But he also appointed the most feckless Republican in history as his AG, who then dithered and slow-walked the Trump crimes, giving him a two year head start on running out the clock. He also did nothing to punish anyone under 14A/S3. He put a bunch of MAGA Morons in jail, but allowed their leaders to remain in government, and then stood by and let them steal the election from right under our noses.

        Imagine we let Hitler off the hook, and allowed him to take power again a few years later, where he only got worse? Biden, with the help of our elected Democratic officials, did exactly that. For that unforgivable malpractice, Biden’s good works will be forgotten, and he will forever be known as the weakling who HELPED Trump to rise again, and he will settle among the Worst 15 presidents in American history.

        It’s a shame, he really had a decent presidency overall, but his cowardice in dealing with the rising MAGA threat ruined his legacy.

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      He was pretty milquetoast, but he got saddled with the post-covid ‘wtf’ the economy went through with shortages and price hikes combined with impacts from Russia’s invasion…

      None of it reasonably Biden’s fault, but he got stuck with it happening on his watch so lot’s of people need to blame something vaguely controllable so they blame and vote against the president.

      Presidents are usually as likely to be defined by their circumstances as their actual actions or inactions.

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    Trump is worse than himself. If there was a competition for “evilest man in earth” he’d be disqualified for lying about cheating at cheating only to land in 5th place.

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    Trump is up there as worst president of all time. Only president who was worse was Andrew Jackson. If this ICE stuff gets any worse he my become the king of worst presidents.

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      Andrew Johnson was by far the worst of all time for sabotaging Reconstruction. Basically every problem we have now including Trump/fascism is a direct result of Johnson’s actions.

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        Johnson didn’t invent racism. Even with Reconstruction proceeding properly, ALL those racists would have still been there, gumming up the works.

        They got the three post-war Constitutional Amendments that formed the foundation of Reconstruction, and that was probably the biggest lift.

        So Johnson was bad, but not the worst. Until now, the worst were those pre-war presidents like Buchanan that moved America toward Civil War.

        Now, however, we have an actual traitor in the office, who is an asset for a hostile foreign enemy, has attempted an Insurrection, stole hundreds of classified documents, is mind-bogglingly and openly corrupt, and is a proven pedophile to boot. There is no doubt that Trump is solidly in last place, and it isn’t even close.

        In fact, when he’s finally out, and we find out what was really going on behind the scenes, his last place position will only solidify.

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          If Reconstruction had proceeded properly, the United States would have hung all of the Confederate officers and government officials and at least pulled up the root of the problems in the South. Johnson allowed them to fester and re-emerge, and we have been living with those problems since.

          Not punishing heinous crimes like chattel slavery and violent insurrection is how we get precedent for not punishing even more crimes. Like Ford pardoning Nixon so “the country can heal” and then Reagan using that precedent for Iran-Contra and then Bush using that precedent to steal the 2000 election and commit the US illegally in Iraq etc etc. And now Trump realizing that laws don’t matter at all and doing whatever he wants with impunity. Most of the Supreme Court justices are direct descendants of politics Johnson enabled. Roberts clerked for Rehnquist ffs, an avowed segregationist who wouldn’t have been politically viable if Reconstruction had succeeded.

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            But would Lincoln have hung all the Confederates? I doubt it. Certainly, some should have swung, like Davis and Lee, but I doubt it would have been as across the board as you suggest. Lincoln’s humanity likely would have prevented it, and he would have put the emphasis on healing, more than punishment.

            I grant you, things would have been far different under Lincoln, but the lack of technology would have prevented the Federal government from dealing with many of the same inevitable problems that occured anyway. You can deal with governmental issues in the courts, but when it comes to the ground level, face-to-face interactions between people, in towns and small cities, which is where most of real life exists, especially back then, the authorities were likely to be enthusiastic about supporting racists and racist policies, and the Feds weren’t going to be much help in the best of circumstances. You could Federally squash a problem in one place, but it’s still going on in a thousand other places.

            The point is that just saying Reconstruction would have gone perfectly under Lincoln, and prevented all our current problems, is a bit optimistic. I think the systemic racism of the South (and everywhere else), was going to make a fully successful Reconstruction an impossibility.

            Getting the three Reconstruction amendments was the important part, because it gave us the legal foundation to constantly chip away at the systemic racism that still exists today.

            But yeah, I can fully agree that Johnson was still an awful shithead.

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              It certainly wouldn’t have gone perfectly but I think the best evidence that it would have eventually worked out for the better is how much political power former slaves had shortly after the Civil War ended while Reconstruction, in whatever diluted form, was actually being attempted. This is the period we get the first black senator, Hiram Revels from Mississippi. Further, In 1868 black Americans made up a majority of the South Carolina’s state legislature and opened the South’s first public school system. Former slaves started taking up tons of local political offices as well. They wielded true local political power and although there were still racists opposed to their inclusion in society, it was much harder to extract former slaves from that society and subjugate them again. Once federal troops withdrew from the South all of these reforms were taken away, violently and illegally, by the people who weren’t punished under Johnson, the violence and subjugation became much easier. This is how we get Jim Crow etc.

              I mean, if this period had gone on for long enough for white Southerners to benefit from it, maybe a generation or so, we wouldn’t even have the modern Republican party since it only exists today as an extension of white Southern racism that was enabled by Johnson. Instead, we get generation after generation of white Southern children being indoctrinated into racist beliefs because the leaders of the Confederacy were allowed to spread their hateful ideals throughout their society after they lost the war. We’d live in a much more egalitarian society as a whole if that hadn’t happened. Again, not without its problems, but we would have solved the major problem. It’s most of my issue with people today jumping to Trump being the worst president, not only is it recency bias but he’s just the obvious result of decisions made by Johnson et. al. during Reconstruction.

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                Absolutely phenomenal points, especially how the growing political power of black citizens would have made a much larger impact on their futures in society, had it not been arrested by racist Southern state governments, and that was due to the Federal government pulling out, and letting the South govern themselves.

                We can’t do anything about it now, but we can learn from it, and not let the current MAGA government, an outgrowth of the worst racist policies our nation has ever tolerated, survive to live another day, once they’ve been stopped. We will need to crush MAGA, and fully purge it from American government and society. We can’t make the mistake of letting these traitors off the hook, again, or we’ll be back here in a other 100 years. We can’t keep letting these moronic losers suppress our nation’s progress any longer.

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                  Yes I fully agree, and thank you for the conversation. However I am deeply cynical American society will excise their fascist tumor since they have such a long history of refusing to punish criminals, enforce laws, and enact meaningful reform.

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          The war was inevitable by the time Buchanan took office. He could have forestalled it or prepared the Union for it more adequately, and deserves blame for basically doing neither of those things, but he isn’t a direct cause. In fact, many of his political options for corralling the South in the antebellum period could have caused the war to start earlier than it did. It’s just a personal belief of mine that he gets more hate than he really deserves, especially compared to people who could have easily been better like Johnson.

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    Could have swore that was going to say “worse than Hitler”.

    Imagine USA gets a system where people vote for what they want, not merely against who they don’t want.

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      I don’t remember Hitler shitting his pants during a press conference. Actually he seemed constipated most of the time.

      And I don’t think there were allegations of him being member of a pedophile ring.

      I hate comparing Trump with Hitler, it almost seems a praise to the Austrian.

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        And I don’t think there were allegations of him being member of a pedophile ring.

        I don’t really see a point in that comparison - These two people are evil on its own, there is no point in playing games on who is less evil in this regard. Also it is misinformation to be saying trump is worse than him, as you’re forgetting about the genocide that he did - trump isn’t yet at that point.

        It is also important to bring in the fact that trump wasnt just a pedo, but a sex offender. Him being both doesn’t make him worse than hitler.

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          I’m just joking, don’t take this as any form of support for either. That’s what my last point was about more or less, but my wording was not great

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      We should be voting with guillotines. We should be giving “hanging chads” new meaning.

      The media is fully captured by the rightist ruling class, capturing the soap box and ballot box. They have packed the courts with traitorous loyalists, depriving us of the jury box. Only one box is left.

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    18 point swing sounds great, but the ‘post-swing’ percentage is 51% thinking he’s doing a worse job than Biden, which isn’t actually all that encouraging, imo.

    Also, apparently the prior poll that’s the other side of the ‘swing’ is one that was taken just after he was inaugurated…isn’t that kind of a stupid time for a poll asking ‘do you think the President is doing a better or worse job than the last President’, just as he begins his term?

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    Worse than Biden? The old dipshit that maintained the status quo vs the narcissist that will burn down America to enrich himself and his family and disrupt every norm. Headlines are awesome.