• AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    “No war but class war” doesn’t mean you cannot fight or support a defensive war.

    If it does, it is an irredeemably stupid position.

    The non-revisionist, non-reformist, internationalist socialist position can eat dicks.

    If there is an imperialist aggressor invading another country, then the MORAL position is to side against the aggressor. Because regardless of how you feel about the governments (which, fuck all governments, so what’s the point in making that distinction?), the civilians will be feeling the brunt of the war.

    There is an imperialist aggressor and it is Russia.

    • 🏴حمید پیام عباسی🏴@crazypeople.online
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      3 hours ago

      The oblasts involved in this war want to join Russia and voted to join in 2014 after the Ukrainians kicked out the Russian friendly government. They voted to join Russia because they feared that the Ukrainian government was going to oppress them for being Russian speaking ethnic Russians. They were right, In the years between 2014 and 2022 they fought a civil war to leave Ukraine and were not allowed to and Russia intervened. Most of the people living there moved to Russia.

      The only irredeemably stupid position is the person who just takes into account 2022 and after and not looking at the whole picture. You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

      • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        Sorry, I can’t hear you over your staunch adherence to revisionism in favor of authoritarian imperialist powers masquerading as socialist or communist.