• _cryptagion [he/him]@anarchist.nexus
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          your argument against mine saying that people have a personal responsibility for engaging in war crimes like rape and torture, is to absolve them of that guilt by claiming that anyone could be tricked into such acts. that’s nazi apologia.

          you’re obviously a terrible fucking person.

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            That’s not even remotely close do anything I said.

            However I wanted you to consider something. In our conversations you’ve shown yourself to be extremely judgmental, quick to anger, exceedingly hostile, inability to consider points of views of others, you’ve shown a sense of innate self-superiority, and an inability to empathize. If I were trying to describe the people most susceptible to being conditioned to commit war crimes and atrocities those are all traits I would absolutely list. You’re not special. Nobody is.

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              Netanyahu thinks Palestinians are subhuman, and has convinced the nation of Israel of the same. does that excuse the IDF soliders for raping Palestinian prisoners? yes or no, please, I want you to answer that.

              I want you to answer this too. yes, or no?

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                I’m not sure who on Earth you were quoting here (im guessing yourself) or what it has to do with anything we said. Absolution has never been our topic.

                But since we’re asking questions I’d like you to go back and answer the question I asked a couple responses ago that you ignored. Your argument is that people who commit war crimes atrocities are special. Only certain select people do them. You’re not one of those people, you’re innately Superior to those people. And I just want to know again who those people are? How do you identify them? What makes them so inherently evil? How are there so many of them? Inexhaustibly throughout human history in every people and culture.

                Before you answer that question though I’d like you to look at that quote you posted that I assume is from you. I noticed you said something in that quote. You said Netanyahu convinced the people of Israel of the same. He convinced them. How did he do that? I thought it was only certain people. I thought you couldn’t be convinced of things like that. Isn’t that the Crux of your entire argument? That only the other people are capable of those things? How do you convince a whole people? Surely you’re not going to make the argument that all Israeli people are inherently evil, so doesn’t that rather break your entire argument apart here?

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                  But since we’re asking questions I’d like you to go back and answer the question I asked a couple responses ago that you ignored. Your argument is that people who commit war crimes atrocities are special. Only certain select people do them. You’re not one of those people, you’re innately Superior to those people. And I just want to know again who those people are? How do you identify them? What makes them so inherently evil? How are there so many of them? Inexhaustibly throughout human history in every people and culture.

                  yes, I am absolutely superior to people who would do those things. idk, maybe that’s different for you. maybe you think you could be convinced to do horrible things like that. maybe you think you’ree suspectable to propaaganda in a way that could convince you that something like that was OK. idc what propaganda you show me, I’m not going to decide it’s OK to rape somebody. I guess I’m just fucking built different than you are, but there is no conditions that you could ever possibly conceive of that would convince me to do something like that.

                  I thought you couldn’t be convinced of things like that.

                  gods, you’re so fucking thick, aren’t you? idk why I gotta explain this so many fucking times to you. yeah, propaganda can convince people that another group is subhuman and beneath them. but normal fucking people don’t go around raping and torturing animals either, you fucking shit-for-brains twatwaffle. no fucking normal person engages in shit like that. if they do something like that, THEY AREN’T FUCKING NORMAL PEOPLE.

                  now answer the fucking question, do you think the IDF soldiers who raped those prisoners are absolved of their guilt because they’ve been propagandized? and a follow up question, just based on your responses, why do you think you personally could be convinced to rape somebody?

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                    Well okay, even I’m a little stunned at how easily you walked into this.

                    So to summarize your comment there. You are an inherently Superior being. No matter what situation you were thrust into raised into whatever, you were better than other people. Kind of an Übermensch if you will. You’re just that much better than those others. Those others can be convinced to do evil because they’re inherently less than you. Those others include the entire people of Israel. They’re inherently less than you, the Übermensch. Interesting…