I don’t know why they gotta show that photo. I see opportunity there. A good neighborhood is one where I can take my welder and grinder to the backyard and do whatever the whole day and nobody is bothered by the noise. Not that they accept the noise but that they live far enough from me to not hear or be bothered by the noise. If you can do that, that’s a good engineering neighborhood.
Disagree. A better neighborhood would have much denser, often multi family housing. But provide actual proper workshop spaces for that sort of thing so not to disturb the neighborhood. Suburbia and exurbia are two of the most corrosive societal forces.
Agreed. I lived in a small town and hated it. I need the buzz of a city, the opportunities, always things happening.
Also, in a big city you can find groups of people to fit with your identity however niche you are. In a small town it’s the opposite, you have to adapt yourself to them to fit in, they are very monocultural. I can’t do that.
I don’t disagree. It’s just that suburbia can’t continue to exist. If you can dig your own well and are going to provide your own power, et cetera, more power to you. Bua lot of places like that. Where there’s little opportunity, and far too much resources invested in minimally used infrastructure. Are unsustainable as they currently exist.
Exurbia, I didn’t repeat the term and that tripped you up. Suburbia, exurbia/rural areas especially. Where you have to run miles of wire or pipe to service three or four people. Completely unsustainable.
Miles of wire is easy and low maintenance. Miles of pipes doesn’t make sense, but water is also not hard to localize. Miles of stroads is what defines suburbia. A rural highway with a driveway every 2-3 miles defines rural living and it’s perfectly sustainable. It would be better if the rural hubs were connected to cities via railroads, like they used to be, but still they aren’t too bad as is.
I live near some of these areas. The seat of the county I am in is largely one of those areas. My uncle lived directly in it. Both were massive issues. And a significant portion of county resources go to trying to maintain it. Conversely our area being much more urban and closer ties to the nearby city gets very little in the way of county funds or assistance. If it wasn’t for the end of the county near the city, the county overall would much more resemble something like West Virginia. You go much farther north, the roads all became two lanesat most. And you have to dodge horse apples and the carts of menonites. Which isn’t a dig at the menonites. They’re actually self-sufficient and don’t get much help from the county either.
The source of your claim it is unsustainable is that it takes more resources than they can get because of politics. Not because the resources aren’t available. If you have roads, everything else can be localized. Solar, wind geothermal, water power, plus batteries can be very local. Internet via satellite. Water is actually not too hard to come by for residental use. Food can be a bit challenging in some places, but the roads can bring it in.
It is all sustainable just fine if we want it to be and stop optimizing for cost.
I don’t know why they gotta show that photo. I see opportunity there. A good neighborhood is one where I can take my welder and grinder to the backyard and do whatever the whole day and nobody is bothered by the noise. Not that they accept the noise but that they live far enough from me to not hear or be bothered by the noise. If you can do that, that’s a good engineering neighborhood.
Disagree. A better neighborhood would have much denser, often multi family housing. But provide actual proper workshop spaces for that sort of thing so not to disturb the neighborhood. Suburbia and exurbia are two of the most corrosive societal forces.
Disagree. Different people like different things. Both high density and low density should exist. The goal should be happy people.
Agreed. I lived in a small town and hated it. I need the buzz of a city, the opportunities, always things happening.
Also, in a big city you can find groups of people to fit with your identity however niche you are. In a small town it’s the opposite, you have to adapt yourself to them to fit in, they are very monocultural. I can’t do that.
I don’t disagree. It’s just that suburbia can’t continue to exist. If you can dig your own well and are going to provide your own power, et cetera, more power to you. Bua lot of places like that. Where there’s little opportunity, and far too much resources invested in minimally used infrastructure. Are unsustainable as they currently exist.
But nobody you was talking about suburbia. The guy above was discussing rural living, not suburban
Exurbia, I didn’t repeat the term and that tripped you up. Suburbia, exurbia/rural areas especially. Where you have to run miles of wire or pipe to service three or four people. Completely unsustainable.
Miles of wire is easy and low maintenance. Miles of pipes doesn’t make sense, but water is also not hard to localize. Miles of stroads is what defines suburbia. A rural highway with a driveway every 2-3 miles defines rural living and it’s perfectly sustainable. It would be better if the rural hubs were connected to cities via railroads, like they used to be, but still they aren’t too bad as is.
I live near some of these areas. The seat of the county I am in is largely one of those areas. My uncle lived directly in it. Both were massive issues. And a significant portion of county resources go to trying to maintain it. Conversely our area being much more urban and closer ties to the nearby city gets very little in the way of county funds or assistance. If it wasn’t for the end of the county near the city, the county overall would much more resemble something like West Virginia. You go much farther north, the roads all became two lanesat most. And you have to dodge horse apples and the carts of menonites. Which isn’t a dig at the menonites. They’re actually self-sufficient and don’t get much help from the county either.
The source of your claim it is unsustainable is that it takes more resources than they can get because of politics. Not because the resources aren’t available. If you have roads, everything else can be localized. Solar, wind geothermal, water power, plus batteries can be very local. Internet via satellite. Water is actually not too hard to come by for residental use. Food can be a bit challenging in some places, but the roads can bring it in.
It is all sustainable just fine if we want it to be and stop optimizing for cost.