They warned you: Someone allegedly used a politician's cloned voice to interfere with an election
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  • Pxtl@lemmy.caEnglish
    142·
    10 months ago

    I keep saying: none of this will end until we get a clean, cryptographically secure, government-backed way to ID who is sending us something, and it becomes an expectation to use it all the time for anything important. Which is why I have conspiracy theories about the conspiracy theories about government ID.

    • RobotToaster@mander.xyzEnglish
      14·
      10 months ago

      a clean, cryptographically secure, government=backed way to ID who is sending us something, and it becomes an expectation to use it all the time

      sounds dystopian.

      • Pxtl@lemmy.caEnglish
        111·
        10 months ago

        sounds dystopian.

        So does the total death of objective fact.

        An end to internet anonymity isn’t great, but given the alternative I’ll take it.

          • piratehat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            5·
            10 months ago

            Truth is never subjective. Truth is Truth. People have different opinions on where the truth lies but there’s is an objective reality to anything.

              • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldEnglish
                0·
                10 months ago

                And I see you didn’t understand your philosophy 101 course.

                All the ideas we have about this stuff comes from a pre-science era and nothing we discovered backs up what they argued.

                That is why Plato can make up another dimension and a psychic connection, that is why Hume could pretend to not know what cause and effect was, that is why Desecrates could think that if he has an idea it has to be true…

                Something to consider for a moment. If you are really determined to maintain the stance that truth is subject that would mean this stance is subjective. Hence there must be exceptions, but your stance allows none. Any statement of the effect that statements are never fully true is going to produce contradictions.

                • Patch@feddit.ukEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  Desecrates could think that if he has an idea it has to be true

                  That’s not what Descartes said, by the way.

                  “I think therefore I am” was all about “I know I must exist, because I’m here to think about it”. It wasn’t about “if I think something it must be true”.

                  In Discourse he sets about trying to establish what things you can know for sure, vs which things are subjective (and could just be a trick of the mind or an illusion). He establishes the first principle that the one thing he knows is definitely true is that he is an entity that is capable of thought (because otherwise, who else is doing all this thinking?) and therefore at the very least he must exist, even if nothing else does.

                  If you’re of the position that truth isn’t subjective, “Cartesian doubt” should be right up your alley. Trust nothing until you can prove it! Not a bad position for a philosopher to take.

      • evatronic@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        The “government backed” part is ostensibly about a government setting up the framework and like, requiring it be used for official documents.

        It wouldn’t be too hard to stick a private signing key on say, your driver’s license / ID / passport, for instance.

        It’s a complex issue, though, that sits on how much you trust whoever runs the system at some point.

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Sure, that works… If you either change the entire american telecommunication system, and cut it off from the rest of the world… or change the entire worlds telecommunication system.

      But you’re not going to get any of those, Which means your cryptographic phone system will have to be backwards compatible, which means skeevy fucks can continue to do this shit.

    • supercriticalcheese@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Well then you will have conspiracy theorists to tell you that government backed IDs are fake cause reptilians are controlling them…

      Newspapers l, specially tabloids feeds on sensational crap like this

    • kibiz0r@midwest.socialEnglish
      21·
      10 months ago

      You don’t even need to ID who is sending it, just that the content itself can provide some grounding in an authentic source.

      Like if a picture can say that it derives from an original photo captured by a camera signed with Canon’s credentials, and was changed in Photoshop in these specific ways and signed by Adobe…

      There is a group working on exactly this. It’s called C2PA.