Nobody left on that platform is going to be convinced of anything anymore. If being bought by a literal Nazi saluting is not enough to change their minds, nothing she can say will sway the right wingers and bots left in that cesspool.
She is literally helping keep that Nazi shithole afloat and legitimate. Should bail and see who really listens.
Nobody left on that platform is going to be convinced of anything anymore.
I’d beg to differ. Although it’s true that the ratio of neo-Nazis and generally just far right freaks has far surpassed the number of everyday people, that doesn’t mean those people don’t exist anymore.
I always bring this up in conversations about leaving social networks, because if you don’t understand it, it will warp your entire perspective of why people stay on shitty platforms in the first place. The Network Effect is what keeps people hooked on these platforms, even when the owner becomes a literal neo-Nazi.
The people who have already left are the ones that are capable of and willing to sacrifice the scale, reach, and history that Twitter has, in the hopes that whatever platform they move to will treat them better. Leaving Twitter means deleting your digital history, erasing every connection you’ve made on the platform, and entirely cutting all of your messaging off from anyone who hasn’t yet left.
AOC is already on alternative platforms like Bluesky, so people who are willing and able to move, that would otherwise have stayed solely because she was still on Twitter have already done so. The people that remain do not remain because of her, they remain because of everybody else.
Yes, there are still quite a few neo-Nazis outnumbering the average person on there, but there are still quite a few average people that are still on Twitter. Don’t forget that the average person doesn’t seem to care when the companies they buy products from exploit child labor, fund wars that keep oil prices low, and suppress the wages of the workers in their own communities. The average person simply does not have the will to sacrifice what they must give up by leaving a large platform like Twitter, so they remain there.
If AOC didn’t benefit politically from being on Twitter, then she would have entirely left and deleted her account a while ago.
Oh look, a bunch of mental gymnastics justifying staying at the Nazi table.
It’s pathetic and attempting to rationalize with Nazis is a waste of time and energy. She should stop playing games with fashists and have auto posts telling people to leave.
How about people get the fuck over the corporate fomo and do something like getting up and walking away from a Nazi platform instead of being apathetic.
Since 2015, after decades of smearing the Mainstream Media, the MAGA Nazis have been coming on the very shows they have been disparaging, and spewing their propaganda alternative facts to regular Americans who haven’t discovered, or avoid the Conservative Propaganda Machine. They realized the power of getting on the enemy’s platform, and poisoning the water.
That’s why AOC, and anyone else who wants to fight back, goes on Twitter. To force the enemy to see the other side, whether they like it or not. If they are totally immersed in the Conservative Propaganda Machine, then this might be the only way they’ll ever hear an alternative view.
One method used to reduce radicalisation in a group session is to have one person ask awkward questions.
As demonstrated by research by Milgram’s obedience study and Ash’s line study having a single descenter is a powerful tool for helping people resist social pressure.
There is one reason to be at a nazi table which is to be disruptive
You can keep arguing that “nobody left on that platform is going to be convinced of anything anymore,” but the fact of the matter is there are hundreds of millions of active users there, the vast majority of whom don’t give a shit about Musk, and aren’t as in-the-know about a lot of the current goings on that most Lemmy users whine about. As a politician trying to push progressive causes, AOC is on there for the same reason Musk is: it’s the platform with the most reach. It would be stupid of her to leave the platform. She has tons of followers, only a few of which would follow her to a different platform. It’s also the platform her opponents are on, and that’s the only place she can realistically call them out on their bullshit and her message be seen.
(Posting under assumption you & I believe AOC dislikes Musk, dislikes Nazis, would wave a magic wand to poof! Twitter if she found one under her pillow; nvm if assumption is misfounded)
Nobody left on that platform is going to be convinced of anything anymore. If being bought by a literal Nazi saluting is not enough to change their minds, nothing she can say will sway the right wingers and bots left in that cesspool.
She is literally helping keep that Nazi shithole afloat and legitimate. Should bail and see who really listens.
I’d beg to differ. Although it’s true that the ratio of neo-Nazis and generally just far right freaks has far surpassed the number of everyday people, that doesn’t mean those people don’t exist anymore.
I always bring this up in conversations about leaving social networks, because if you don’t understand it, it will warp your entire perspective of why people stay on shitty platforms in the first place. The Network Effect is what keeps people hooked on these platforms, even when the owner becomes a literal neo-Nazi.
The people who have already left are the ones that are capable of and willing to sacrifice the scale, reach, and history that Twitter has, in the hopes that whatever platform they move to will treat them better. Leaving Twitter means deleting your digital history, erasing every connection you’ve made on the platform, and entirely cutting all of your messaging off from anyone who hasn’t yet left.
AOC is already on alternative platforms like Bluesky, so people who are willing and able to move, that would otherwise have stayed solely because she was still on Twitter have already done so. The people that remain do not remain because of her, they remain because of everybody else.
Yes, there are still quite a few neo-Nazis outnumbering the average person on there, but there are still quite a few average people that are still on Twitter. Don’t forget that the average person doesn’t seem to care when the companies they buy products from exploit child labor, fund wars that keep oil prices low, and suppress the wages of the workers in their own communities. The average person simply does not have the will to sacrifice what they must give up by leaving a large platform like Twitter, so they remain there.
If AOC didn’t benefit politically from being on Twitter, then she would have entirely left and deleted her account a while ago.
Oh look, a bunch of mental gymnastics justifying staying at the Nazi table.
It’s pathetic and attempting to rationalize with Nazis is a waste of time and energy. She should stop playing games with fashists and have auto posts telling people to leave.
How about people get the fuck over the corporate fomo and do something like getting up and walking away from a Nazi platform instead of being apathetic.
Since 2015, after decades of smearing the Mainstream Media, the MAGA Nazis have been coming on the very shows they have been disparaging, and spewing their propaganda alternative facts to regular Americans who haven’t discovered, or avoid the Conservative Propaganda Machine. They realized the power of getting on the enemy’s platform, and poisoning the water.
That’s why AOC, and anyone else who wants to fight back, goes on Twitter. To force the enemy to see the other side, whether they like it or not. If they are totally immersed in the Conservative Propaganda Machine, then this might be the only way they’ll ever hear an alternative view.
You don’t listen to the other side when you are as brainwashed as trump supporters are.
You have to kill the platform, not keep it legitimate. Every single reasonable human has left at this point.
One method used to reduce radicalisation in a group session is to have one person ask awkward questions.
As demonstrated by research by Milgram’s obedience study and Ash’s line study having a single descenter is a powerful tool for helping people resist social pressure.
There is one reason to be at a nazi table which is to be disruptive
You can keep arguing that “nobody left on that platform is going to be convinced of anything anymore,” but the fact of the matter is there are hundreds of millions of active users there, the vast majority of whom don’t give a shit about Musk, and aren’t as in-the-know about a lot of the current goings on that most Lemmy users whine about. As a politician trying to push progressive causes, AOC is on there for the same reason Musk is: it’s the platform with the most reach. It would be stupid of her to leave the platform. She has tons of followers, only a few of which would follow her to a different platform. It’s also the platform her opponents are on, and that’s the only place she can realistically call them out on their bullshit and her message be seen.
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Does AOC have poor intel/analysts on this?
(Posting under assumption you & I believe AOC dislikes Musk, dislikes Nazis, would wave a magic wand to poof! Twitter if she found one under her pillow; nvm if assumption is misfounded)
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Yes, now you are getting it.
its call hate-engaging, hatewatching shes is enabling it to be honest. or engaging just to argue with people like AOC.