I find it very strange seeing people express such somber emotions about 9/11. Admittedly it was before I was born, but it seems so different to my experience. The reverence displayed for human life during 9/11 seems so disjointed from the apathy to the multitudes more who died in gaza. Who died in Ukraine. Who died in hospitals during COVID. I cannot imagine myself being so shaken by death. When I see tragedy it affects me very little. Not to say I think death is okay, I just can’t imagine living in a time where I would have grievances to spare on another thousand dead.
What I’m trying to say is that I probably would set a personal best during a modern tragedy and be either oblivious or indifferent. Relatable meme lol
I watched human beings jump out of skyscrapers live, my homeroom class. It had an impact.
And then everything went nuts, the Patriot act got passed, and the whole WMD bullshit, and my whole high school encircled the building and prayed. Nuts.
Do you think seeing it live on tv is what made the difference? Could you see people having a similar reaction to modern incidents if they were televised as much.
because 9/11 was never about human life, Americans don’t give a shit about that. they care about their own life, and 9/11 was a shocking, if temporary, reminder that a full life isn’t a sure thing.
basically the American people felt for a moment how their government has made brown people all around the world every day for decades and the panic was enough to start multiple wars without an end in sight.
and of course as evidenced by these wars, it was a perfect excuse for maxing out the already obnoxious jingoism of the population. they just do it on reflex, no thinking.
never forget. respect the veterans. thank you for your service.
what was the service again? oh yeah cracking skulls of brown children? thanks a lot. I’m thankful you exploded those newlyweds on their wedding day who were surely getting married so they could do terror attacks together. thank you.
You remember how weird and scary and paranoid everything was in the early days of the pandemic? That’s a bit what it was like on/after 9/11. It was a shock to the entire nation, and the world suddenly felt uncertain in a way it hadn’t on 9/10.
You’re contextualizig the attack in terms of loss of life, numbers, but what you’re missing is the vibe of the thing.
No not really. I remember people dying while others lamented the loss of economic value. I didn’t feel paranoid or scared I felt disappointed.
The vibe of the thing is exactly what I’m referring to. The vibes being somber seems a reality so far removed from what I’ve experienced and I want to understand why. From what I can gather from comments the reason seems to be that it was shown on tv. That tracks with modern disasters not gaining such notoriety because mainstream media won’t show you the scattered remains of children who died in buildings brought down by American armaments.
i remember going home with a friend because my parents were both working, and watching him play team fortress classic while half the lobby had nicknames like “OSAMA BIN LADEN HAS NO BALLS”
Man this is the kinda contemporary responses that need to be preserved. I feel much more of a human connection to an emotional reaction like that than I have for any other. Thank you
In 1993 a truck bomb exploded in the basement of the world trade centre killing 6 and injuring over 1000. Completely out of the blue? A first in history? Google pre 9/11 terrorist attacks, have a read through.
I said in another comment that the I think the reason for such discrepancy between the reactions I see in my life and the reactions to 9/11 from people who lived through it was they saw it happen on tv. And I guess in a weird way that does make sense to me. Of course people don’t have such a visceral reaction to things they haven’t seen.
I’ve seen plenty of the muslim conflicts. It is well reported in Sweden. You miss the geographical impact of a “real” threat occurring in North America.
I know about the truck bomb. It was like a footnote of nothing in comparison.
Idk I guess it’s just confusing for me. I don’t care particularly more about the people who died in 9/11 than I do about the people who died elsewhere. For me it is no less tragic than any other incident. And for me so much is happening that I’m numb to it.
9/11 was so shocking, it was known around the world.
My parents who grew up in a developing country (that is not even a US ally btw) also heard about it on the news. Its literally the first thing that come to mind when the concept of “terrorism” is uttered.
I find it very strange seeing people express such somber emotions about 9/11. Admittedly it was before I was born, but it seems so different to my experience. The reverence displayed for human life during 9/11 seems so disjointed from the apathy to the multitudes more who died in gaza. Who died in Ukraine. Who died in hospitals during COVID. I cannot imagine myself being so shaken by death. When I see tragedy it affects me very little. Not to say I think death is okay, I just can’t imagine living in a time where I would have grievances to spare on another thousand dead.
What I’m trying to say is that I probably would set a personal best during a modern tragedy and be either oblivious or indifferent. Relatable meme lol
I watched human beings jump out of skyscrapers live, my homeroom class. It had an impact.
And then everything went nuts, the Patriot act got passed, and the whole WMD bullshit, and my whole high school encircled the building and prayed. Nuts.
Do you think seeing it live on tv is what made the difference? Could you see people having a similar reaction to modern incidents if they were televised as much.
Probably, yes. Also the fact that they were their people.
America is on friendly terms with most of the world, surprisingly enough, so most would have viewed this as an attack on an ally.
because 9/11 was never about human life, Americans don’t give a shit about that. they care about their own life, and 9/11 was a shocking, if temporary, reminder that a full life isn’t a sure thing.
basically the American people felt for a moment how their government has made brown people all around the world every day for decades and the panic was enough to start multiple wars without an end in sight.
and of course as evidenced by these wars, it was a perfect excuse for maxing out the already obnoxious jingoism of the population. they just do it on reflex, no thinking.
never forget. respect the veterans. thank you for your service.
what was the service again? oh yeah cracking skulls of brown children? thanks a lot. I’m thankful you exploded those newlyweds on their wedding day who were surely getting married so they could do terror attacks together. thank you.
biggest terror organization in the world.
You remember how weird and scary and paranoid everything was in the early days of the pandemic? That’s a bit what it was like on/after 9/11. It was a shock to the entire nation, and the world suddenly felt uncertain in a way it hadn’t on 9/10.
You’re contextualizig the attack in terms of loss of life, numbers, but what you’re missing is the vibe of the thing.
No not really. I remember people dying while others lamented the loss of economic value. I didn’t feel paranoid or scared I felt disappointed.
The vibe of the thing is exactly what I’m referring to. The vibes being somber seems a reality so far removed from what I’ve experienced and I want to understand why. From what I can gather from comments the reason seems to be that it was shown on tv. That tracks with modern disasters not gaining such notoriety because mainstream media won’t show you the scattered remains of children who died in buildings brought down by American armaments.
For me, Covid is more like slow horror that creeps in, slowly boiling you like a frog.
9/11 is probably more like what Jan 6 felt like. Obviously, more people died on 9/11, but I’m talking about the shock of it, and how surreal it feels.
Covid feels more like a “Flint, Michigan” scenario.
I guess its because one category is negligence, the other is malicious intent.
i remember going home with a friend because my parents were both working, and watching him play team fortress classic while half the lobby had nicknames like “OSAMA BIN LADEN HAS NO BALLS”
Man this is the kinda contemporary responses that need to be preserved. I feel much more of a human connection to an emotional reaction like that than I have for any other. Thank you
One is a conflict that has perpetuated arguably for more than 400 years.
One is a war that has been going on since 1948. Could be argued that it even started in the 1800’s with zionism.
One was COMPLETELY out of the blue, unprecedented in USA. Pearl Harbor doesn’t even come close to the impact of 9/11.
So yeah. Obviously people have different feeling about it.
In 1993 a truck bomb exploded in the basement of the world trade centre killing 6 and injuring over 1000. Completely out of the blue? A first in history? Google pre 9/11 terrorist attacks, have a read through.
I said in another comment that the I think the reason for such discrepancy between the reactions I see in my life and the reactions to 9/11 from people who lived through it was they saw it happen on tv. And I guess in a weird way that does make sense to me. Of course people don’t have such a visceral reaction to things they haven’t seen.
I’ve seen plenty of the muslim conflicts. It is well reported in Sweden. You miss the geographical impact of a “real” threat occurring in North America.
I know about the truck bomb. It was like a footnote of nothing in comparison.
Idk I guess it’s just confusing for me. I don’t care particularly more about the people who died in 9/11 than I do about the people who died elsewhere. For me it is no less tragic than any other incident. And for me so much is happening that I’m numb to it.
9/11 was so shocking, it was known around the world.
My parents who grew up in a developing country (that is not even a US ally btw) also heard about it on the news. Its literally the first thing that come to mind when the concept of “terrorism” is uttered.
if nobody’s pointed out it - it’s because rich people died in 9/11