A crackdown on political dissent is well under way in Germany. Over the past two years, institutions and authorities have cancelled events, exhibitions and awards over statements about Palestine or Israel.
There are many examples: the Frankfurt book fair indefinitely postponing an award ceremony for Adania Shibli; the Heinrich Böll Foundation withdrawing the Hannah Arendt prize from Masha Gessen; the No Other Land directors Basel Adra and Yuval Abraham being defamed by German ministers. And, most recently, the philosopher Omri Boehm being disinvited from speaking at this month’s anniversary of the liberation of Buchenwald.
In nearly all of these cases, accusations of antisemitism loom large – even though Jews are often among those being targeted. More often than not, it is liberals driving or tacitly accepting these cancellations, while conservatives and the far right lean back and cheer them on.
Germany has recently taken a chilling new step, signalling its willingness to use political views as grounds to curb migration. Authorities are now moving to deport foreign nationals for participating in pro-Palestine actions. As I reported this week in the Intercept, four people in Berlin – three EU citizens and one US citizen – are set to be deported over their involvement in demonstrations against Israel’s war on Gaza. None of the four have been convicted of a crime, and yet the authorities are seeking to simply throw them out of the country.
zioni$t$ at work I see
This will be the new America. A country who backs Israel no matter what, even war crimes.
Germany is arresting and deporting its political enemies. who are predominantly Jewish
nothing is new under the sun
Nooo, not germany.
Who would’ve thought that?In Fantasy Axis and Allies news, Germany’s election to join the Axis this time around is not expected to have a significant scoring impact, unlike the Brexit Shakeup of 2016. Instead, while many players correctly anticipated America’s most recent fascist power play, few gambled on a parallel humanist shift from the former Axis MVP. The sentiment of those surveyed can be summarized as, “Well, yeah, it’s Germany, what did you expect?”
Idk if is deliberate or just a consequence, but I’m very confused by the duplicit meaning of antisemetic (having anamosity toward jews or being anti israeli policy)
The complicated thing is that zionist israeli ideology is completely anti-semitic. They hate jews not supporting them and have sold them out to their allied fascist germ nazis before and during WW2.
Also by mislabeling themselves as Jews and hiding behind that victimhod while commiting genocide puts the real jews in danger.To make it even more confusing Palestinians are Semites themselves. So being pro Israel war is also being anti-Semitic… But nobody talks about that.
Germans like using their previous genocide as an excuse for their current one.
While the argument makes no sense at all, it is literally illegal to deny it in Germany or you will get deported for wrongthink.
So this very bad racist argument keeps being made, and nobody is allowed to debunk it.
On purpose. They conflate so people feel scared to criticize. In the end all it has done has make people dismiss claims of antisemitism because it’s being used as a cludgel against anyone who criticizes the Israeli state or Americas god awful approach to the middle east.
The nation state Israel is not a religion
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what’s with the influx of new accounts posting such dogshit?
Citations or gtfo
Ah yes. Those Irish Islamists. Always demanding Sharia law.
The cancellation of the demos and deportation are in fact based on law, Its the same article that prohibites the Hitler salute. Even oure foregin minister is allowed to critisie israel, but to say that it has no right to exist is banned.
And new immigrants only get accepted if they’re willing to say that Israel has a right to exist.
I just hate these articles about chaotic situations in Germany especially if compared to the current US situation
Did you know the Holocaust was legal in Germany?
Ah, man, I can’t find what they said in the modlog.
What’d they say??
The cancellation of the demos and deportation are in fact based on law, Its the same article that prohibites the Hitler salute. Even oure foregin minister is allowed to critisie israel, but to say that it has no right to exist is banned.
and new immigrants only get accepted if they’re willing to say that Israel has a right to exist.
I just hate these articles about chaotic situations in Germany especially if compared to the current US situation
Thank you! I know it defeats the purpose of the glorious tankie mods deleting their shit comment, but the people yearn for the slop.
I semi disagee with mods removing these type of comments. Especially when they go negative in score.
One thing which threw me off early when having debates with Zionists online is their arguments being so incredibly bad that I did not expect anyone to make them. It’s like they’re arguing from an alternate universe.
There are so many ways to debunk their "arguments’ that my brain short-circuits and needs to think which one to pick. Getting used to it does help. And people who visit .world for a dose of Hasbara slop might actually believe this nonsense if they have never been exposed to the counter arguments.
It’s like there’s an entire different side of the story people have never been told; the fake Hasbara universe where everything is made up and lies are patched with more lies.
I think it’s understandable to remove them in the desire to not allow that kind of discussion in a given place, like this instance.
As a general user, it’s just difficult to parse through afterwards, I feel like an historian trying to piece together an ancient argument with only one side of it. I feel like leaving them up a bit longer until the argument is dead is good, but only because I like to read through it as content or jump in at times. Taking the comments down immediately kills it. I usually check the modlog and piece it together but in this case something was missing for some reason.
In terms of moderation, and I’ve never been a mod, I think the current way of doing things is best though.
‘You are a criminal when you make something that outsiders banned’
Fascism is okay when it’s legal.
Go back to Reddit.
When supporting the existence of an explicit ethnonationalist state is mandated by law, maybe the law is wrong.
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Israel has no right to exist. It should be returned to its rightful owners.
they have the same right to build a state as the Palestinians have
Lol, try telling Israel or Germany that Palestinians have a right to a state, you Nazi bitch.
It is antisemitic to denounce Israels right to exist.
Israel has no right to exist.
Person A: “I think the actions of the Netanyahu government are reprehensible and amount to ethnic cleansing. I think a government like that shouldn’t exist.”
Person B: “You can’t criticize the Zionist entity, that’s literally anti-Semitism”
Person A: “Well, this is a line in the sand for me that I can’t cross. So it’s all Jews then?”
Aren’t you at all concerned that you might create more anti-Semitism when you say that? It’s bad enough as it is — don’t give people legitimate reasons to turn into Nazis.
tell you what, where do you live? i think i should have the right to build a state right there and you’d be a hateful bigot if you had a problem with it.
They’re German, which makes it even better, as you could legitimately argue that a Jewish homeland should have been partitioned out of Germany as reparations for the Holocaust.
yeah, mecklenburg vorpommern
It is antisemitic to denounce Israels right to exist.
It’s not “antisemitic” to say a country that only exists because Zionists in the British government convinced others to partition the ottoman empire and specifically create that country “as a national home for the Jewish people” (weird, sounds ethno statey, but don’t worry, they totally promised not to infringe on the rights of the natives) has no right to exist
Like you are an absolute fucking pig shit for brain moron if you think it’s “antisemitic”
Iirc it’s literally even against the fucking Jewish religion for them to return to Israel before their whatever messianic figure appears. Israel itself is antisemitic! (To say nothing of the fact that Palestinians are a semitic people, but i guess Israeli fascists pushing them into the sea is fine)
pee pee poo poo
So, just to make it clear, your only issue with what the US is doing is that they didn’t file the correct paperwork first?
Or is it that they weren’t required to swear fealty to Israel before entering?
religious ethno states don’t have a right to exist. such an easy question.
Do you think banning the AfD wouldn’t be based on law? Considering you have party officials doing a Hitler salute, saying ‘Sieg Heil’, doing nazi Apologia over and over and over again? Like it’s the same article but somehow it is used to beat down people protesting genocide and not you know an outright Nazi party.
And I agree the situation in germany in not chaotic, this is a well oiled fascist machine that does fascist things, whereas the US is doing chaotic fascism.
I don’t know how you can’t look at how germany has been goosestepping towards fascism over the last what 4 years and go. Actually this is all based on law so no need to worry. Like the writer of this article is completely right, this is just another step in the march towards Germany becoming a fully fascist state again, but I’m sure you’ll tell me that the camps are actually based on law and the deportations and killings are done very orderly much better than in the US where it’s oh so chaotic.
germany has no right to exist.
I dunno if you live in the same reality as I do.
Oh Jesus Christ. Fuck off back to
reddit.eeWhat the fuck is wrong with the whole lot of you?
Fuck!
Lol I am sorry what? I guess we found the AfD voter guess what you piece of shit get fucked. germany only has a right to exist if it took every person from the AfD lined them up against a wall and shot them, then took like I dunno half of the Union and shot them as well. So get up against the wall
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Germany’s “special relationship” with Israel has so many Germans so propagandized and so confidently incorrect in their “enlightened” understanding of Zionist settler-colonialism and of the state of Israel.
What is wrong with you? Why do I need to push you on something so obvious if you are a german? Which I assume you are with a name like Ole.
And if you can’t see why it is about this now, if you truly don’t know and aren’t just playing dumb. The laws have been applied solely against anything to the left of the most right wing shit. Do a climate protest at a summit? Get charged with terrorism. Apply this law against some people protesting a genocide but the pigs from AfD and Union saying nazi shit over and over. Well can’t do anything about that. These laws have over and over been used to suppress anything left of the left, and this is just another step in a long march towards outright fascism. Look at what the current politicians are doing or have done during the last year.
Like fucking Scholz and Merz having a discussion before the elections that came down to ‘Actually I will be better at deporting the immigrants, actually I will be better at cutting social spending.’ Scholz allowing NSDAP and SS Officers to get honored, like literally his direction was ‘Ok so Wehrmachts Soldiers that didn’t resist against the nazis can get honored’ like literally U-Boot captains that were in the NSDAP and SS. Fucking Clown country. You want me to say ‘oh this is all very normal for germany it’s an election year of course they’ll rehabilitate SS officers that’s how they get voters’? Germany saying that they actually don’t really think the ICC applies or even you know has any right or legal justification even though nazi germany literally was its justification.
Like CDU and AfD working together for the first time, and surely going to be in a coalition in 3 years time when the current coalition collapses. Why worry about something as small as the government just deporting people without a legal precedent. Like this is literally ‘First they came from the communists’ but I guess you think it’s totally ok for the tankies to get put away and you’ll be oh so fine
Edit: Just in case someone reads this and is bewildered this article should help.
Heinz Karst fought in Poland and on the eastern front and received an Iron Cross so he fought and probably did a bunch of warcrimes during WW2.
Erich Topp was in the NSDAP and SS and only after the war was critical probably because his own aunt got thrown into a KZ, real ‘I didn’t think the leopards were going to eat my face’ moment there.
Again Scholz thought it was ok to honor warcriminals and nazis because they were really good soldier, after working in my neighbours garden a bit helping uproot a tree I will amend one thing I said. Germany is not a clown country it’s an entire circus.
hey how does it feel being fascist and apparently unaware
“How could the holocaust happen” it’s lanyard wearing nerds like you going um akshually, this is legal
Um akshually sir the fuhrer made it legal so get in the pit. this is good.
Very very very odd law, is it not? Right to exist?? What does that even mean and why would a government force you to subscribe to it?
Kinda reassuring, I was surprised by those articles
I don’t understand why they exist, I hear nothing about an outrage or something about this. Today is in the biggest news an articke about the Buchenwald situation, stating Israels influences on thus controversy
