I mean, the blue shirt guy admitted that some vehicles might have to turn over the median into oncoming traffic to avoid the thing on the road. That isn’t great, in defense of people not liking this change. That’s dangerous, and bad design.
Crashing into an oil tanker would probably be worse for the oncoming vehicle than crashing into a normal vehicle though. Forcing any vehicle into oncoming traffic is dangerous design.
Edit: people down voting truth and common sense. 🤷♂️ Cool.
In my area MOST small residential roads will already require semis to turn into oncoming in order to make tight turns - this is not uncommon, and a reason there’s additional licensing for those vehicles. They have a wide turning radius and should know where and how to make that maneuver safely.
There’s nothing wrong with this setup - speaking as a civil engineer in road design.
Typically, civil engineers are the only ones who can stamp drawings, and the ones who take legal responsibility for the design. But I know there are some jurisdictions where eng techs can ‘design’ and take some level of responsibility, so wanted to leave that door open.
Something tells me you’re not in road design though, regardless of title.
The large vehicles he’s referring to are industrial large vehicles. Which require special licensing. Even the big ass pickup truck they showed could make the turn with no issues at all going at a reasonable speed.
Not every truck a municipality’s public works department uses is this size. You don’t need special licensing to drive a dual wheel F350 long bed, and I’d wager that might be a problem to turn that corner depending on what it has in it. If they need to replace signs, or even just do road work, they need to be able to turn that corner. I have a lot of questions about this.
What happens when it’s an ambulance (a lot of those are built on f450 chassis and don’t require a CDL).
I mean, the blue shirt guy admitted that some vehicles might have to turn over the median into oncoming traffic to avoid the thing on the road. That isn’t great, in defense of people not liking this change. That’s dangerous, and bad design.
The example they used had the turning circle of an oil tanker and would have trouble with a lot of corners. Any normal vehicle would be fine.
Crashing into an oil tanker would probably be worse for the oncoming vehicle than crashing into a normal vehicle though. Forcing any vehicle into oncoming traffic is dangerous design.
Edit: people down voting truth and common sense. 🤷♂️ Cool.
Are you a civil engineer or technician?
In my area MOST small residential roads will already require semis to turn into oncoming in order to make tight turns - this is not uncommon, and a reason there’s additional licensing for those vehicles. They have a wide turning radius and should know where and how to make that maneuver safely.
There’s nothing wrong with this setup - speaking as a civil engineer in road design.
Why do you give me only those two options lol?
Typically, civil engineers are the only ones who can stamp drawings, and the ones who take legal responsibility for the design. But I know there are some jurisdictions where eng techs can ‘design’ and take some level of responsibility, so wanted to leave that door open.
Something tells me you’re not in road design though, regardless of title.
No lol, I’m not in road design. I am a civil engineer, however.
Also from context I think that’s a residential neighbourhood so how many large trucks are going to be driving through?
Any municipal vehicle. They don’t get sewage backups or anything? They never need an ambulance?
The large vehicles he’s referring to are industrial large vehicles. Which require special licensing. Even the big ass pickup truck they showed could make the turn with no issues at all going at a reasonable speed.
Not every truck a municipality’s public works department uses is this size. You don’t need special licensing to drive a dual wheel F350 long bed, and I’d wager that might be a problem to turn that corner depending on what it has in it. If they need to replace signs, or even just do road work, they need to be able to turn that corner. I have a lot of questions about this.
What happens when it’s an ambulance (a lot of those are built on f450 chassis and don’t require a CDL).