Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused Donald Trump of living in a “Russian-made disinformation space” due to his administration’s talks with Kremlin officials.

He urged Trump’s team to be “more truthful” after Trump blamed Kyiv for the war and downplayed U.S. aid contributions.

Zelenskyy’s remarks came as U.S. envoy Keith Kellogg visited Kyiv amid shifting U.S. policy on Russia. Meanwhile, European leaders, feeling sidelined by U.S.-Russia talks, held emergency meetings.

Zelenskyy canceled a Saudi Arabia trip in protest.

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    He urged Trump’s team to be “more truthful”

    Trump responded by calling Zelensky a “dictator without elections”, and suggested his ratings were low.

    (for those curious: the Ukrainian law constitution prohibits electing a president during war, it’s especially hard with 20% of the country under hostile control; and regarding Zelensky’s rating, it’s about 57% 70% currently)

    After that, some Republicans with a spine (Mike Pence, Don Bacon, Thom Tillis, Mike Rounds, John Kennedy, et al) also called out Trump to be more truthful.

    If Elon is true to his word, he now has to give 100 M to politicians who oppose those Republicans in primaries. Because he threatened to beat anyone who badmouths his boss with his wallet.

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      (for those curious: the Ukrainian constitution prohibits electing a president during war, it’s especially hard with 20% of the country under hostile control; and regarding Zelensky’s rating, it’s about 70% currently)

      A lot of Ukrainians have also fled the country, it makes no sense to organize this before ending the war. Why do we have to have this discussion? They are at war, marshal law is common during times of war to keep your country unified during these periods. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have vast oceans between them and their adversaries to allow for elections of their highest office to continue uninterrupted.

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        Because this isn’t about fair elections, it’s about getting a puppet government in charge who will just end the war freely by bending over for Russia. As if Putin and Trump actually care about fair elections… absolute clown show.

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          Right, and the puppet in charge will be rather obvious. The only other candidate that would win in a fair Ukrainian election is even more aggressive about opposing Russia than Zelenskyy, but since this is going to be rigged neither of those will win.

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            constitution prohibits electing a president during war,
            YOU point that out, specifically.

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              Get fucked, fascist, they don’t hold elections during martial law, which has been in effect since your fellow fascists invaded.

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                LOL see, you can’t find it, cause it’s not in their constitution.
                And you should treally stop projecting.
                The fascists are slightly different red and blue MAGA fascists and racists, continuously attacking, invading and stealing from poor countries and the Banderite ones you support in ex-ukranus.
                Looks like you lost in both cases, lol enjoy seething and crying about it.
                Your banana republic provides top entertainment to us civilised European countries.

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                  Again, simply fascinating, essentially “no U!” 🤣

                  Russia doesn’t attack civilians and elections are easy to hold while being invaded. Please, tell us more, comrade!

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law_in_Ukraine “The Constitution of Ukraine allows for some specific restrictions on rights and freedoms when the state of martial law is in effect.[10] The Constitution explicitly extends the five-year authority of the Verkhovna Rada (the national parliament of Ukraine) in the state of martial law until the first meeting of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine of the next parliamentary term, elected after the cancellation of the state of martial law.[11] Scholars have stated that the Ukrainian constitution does not hold national elections while martial law is in effect.[12] The 2023 Ukrainian parliamentary election were not held and the 2024 Ukrainian presidential election also did not take place on its scheduled date of 31 March 2024.[13][12]”

              I am not posting this for @bloomcole, as that guy is a pathetic troll. But posting for others uses of this site.

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                @bloomcole will thank you anyway since you’ve proven that he is right. Verkhovna Rada (the national parliament of Ukraine) is NOT THE PRESIDENT.

                As always, the Banderite coup defenders demonstrably LIE I rest my case loser

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              Yes, let’s clear that up - it was a law, not the constitution.

              Constitution, article 83(4) - extends the Parliament’s powers until martial law is over. Also allows for the possibility of martial law, says that under martial law, some rights may be restricted.

              Ordinary law, “On the Legal Regime of Martial Law” - forbids elections during martial law.

              So, holding elections in Ukraine during war is merely illegal. And I repeat - with 20% of the country occupied, and millions in emigration, very hard. If you hold a public meeting with your voters and a ballistic missile arrives, then what?

              But since you consider them “banderite coup defenders”, you clearly take your clues from Moscow-based sources - why concern yourself with technicalities in law? The Kremlin does not concern itself with law, international, Ukraininan or Russian for that matter - it does what it wants. And you’re verbally supporting that.

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                  Yes, an Estonian anarchist named “perestroika”. You can read my blog at: http://perestroika.pw/ to see if I’m a nazi russophobe.

                  Can I do a background check in return? :)

                  Oh, you only registered 3 days ago, likely because you got your previous account banned by pushing Kremlin talking points.

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      John Kennedy

      i’ll always know him as the “i can’t wait to have your cock in my mouth” guy

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      LOL nothing but lies
      it has ‘grown’ to 57% and this from their own biased sources
      https://kyivindependent.com/ukrainians-trust-in-zelensky-increases-to-57-survey-shows/

      Another lie is that the constitution forbids elections:

      Ukraine’s Constitution does not explicitly address the issue of wartime elections, except for Article 83(4) that provides for the extension of the Parliament’s powers until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine (the Ukrainian Parliament), elected after the termination of martial law or state of emergency.

      https://verfassungsblog.de/ukraines-constitution-in-wartime/

      And really, it’s not hard to hold an election.
      Russia is not israel, they don’t attack civilians (despite what similar liars to yourself will claim) and civilian infrastructure and life goes on.
      Perfectly fine to hold elections. The 20% is ethnic Russian and no longer ukraine, they wouldn’t vote for him or the fascist Banderites that attacked them anyway.
      Who knows, maybe the Americans can have another Nuland-Pyatt call and choose a president for them.
      That worked out fine didn’t it?

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        Russia is not israel, they don’t attack civilians (despite what similar liars to yourself will claim) and civilian infrastructure and life goes on.

        "As of 31 August, the UN Human Rights Monitoring Mission in Ukraine (HRMMU) had verified that conflict-related violence had killed 11,743 civilians and injured 24,614 in Ukraine since 24 February 2022.

        During the reporting period, Russian armed forces continued to target energy infrastructure across Ukraine, affecting essential services and deepening concerns about the plight of the civilian population with winter approaching."

        Honesty seems to be a problematic concept for the people supporting the Russian invasion of Ukraine…

        Also, I am surprised you even pretend to care about constitutions considering Putin had to rewrite Russias to stay in power past 2024.

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            Yes, and it’s not including the initial invasion and occupation from 2014-2022. However, these types of people see any kind of logical assumption as outright manipulation and opportunities to validate their “alternative facts”.

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        Russia is not israel, they don’t attack civilians

        wow, yeah enough said, no need discussing anything further with the likes of you

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        Oh yes, only the Rada was mentioned in the constitution. The president was mentioned in an ordinary law. As the blog you linked explains:

        As discussed elsewhere, the prohibition of wartime elections is established in Ukraine’s statutory law. Ukraine’s Constitution does not explicitly address the issue of wartime elections, except for Article 83(4) that provides for the extension of the Parliament’s powers until the day of the first meeting of the first session of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine (the Ukrainian Parliament), elected after the termination of martial law or state of emergency. Nothing similar is made with respect to the president. According to one of the drafters of the Constitution, this special treatment of Parliament was originally aimed to enhance Parliament’s standing in the constellation of powers and prevent possible abuses during wartime or national emergency.

        Law of Ukraine “On the Legal Regime of Martial Law” (2015) prohibits the holding of elections during martial law and the Electoral Code of Ukraine (2019) ordains suspension of all elections during such period.

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          Nothing similar is made with respect to the president. There we go, there is NOTHING in the constitution about it.