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  • Do you think jaywalking is as bad as being the CEO of a corporation that is responsible for the deaths of many many people?

    Also, you can be ticketed for jaywalking. Which is a bad thing happening. Which is the point. A bad thing happening to bad people is a philosophy our justice system is built on. We can certainly have a conversation about whether that is correct, but it definitely is the basic philosophy as it sits now.

    Frankly, I think the fact that CEOs that are responsible for so much death aren’t being prosecuted is a bad thing. Feel free and disagree.

    But more to the point, I think that discussion shouldn’t be shut down by the mods.



  • In this context in nearly is. It is a partial quote that is missing the context (the section it is in is generally talking about targeting other lemmy users and groups) and furthermore, they are using that overly broad one line to justify deleting a large amount of comments that “glorify” violence. Which is not in the TOS, including comments that don’t talk about violence at all like:

    • Someone saying they would contribute to a legal defense fund

    • Someone mentioning an insanity plea or Jury nullification for a legal defense

    • Someone advocating for calling in to the tip line in protest

    I get the mods have a job to do, but they aren’t doing it very well and are severely overreacting and over-interpreting a single line in the TOS.




  • “Celebrating violence” is not in the TOS. I get how one can move from the TOS “No call for violence” to a more practical “no celebrating violence”. But no, no one here agreed to that in the TOS because that is not what is in the TOS.

    And honestly the section in the TOS which you guys keep quoting:

    1. Attacks on users or groups

    Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack >other people or groups of people. Just because you disagree with someone doesn’t give you the right to harass them. Discuss ideas and be critical of >principles. Show the respect you desire to receive.

    We do not tolerate threats of and calls for violence in any form against any living creature.

    Really seems to be there to protect the users of Lemmy from violence, which I support. Not the CEOS of Corporations. I mean, in the context of the paragraph it seems obvious you guys are overreacting to most of the deleted posts.


  • using the same level of scrutiny, each one of these comments could justify a sentence in the ballpark of 38 months like what happened with Kay

    That is an assertion that I highly doubt and I while at first glance your comment seems well enough thought out, I actually don’t see a lot to support the assertions made.

    governments that are getting progressively more authoritarian and trigger-happy the world over this is what i mean. the internet today is changing and social media admins need to change with the times or the hammer of the law can screw them.

    You are advocating for literally “Obeying in advance” to authoritarian regimes on a left leaning decentralized social media network.

    https://snyder.substack.com/p/obeying-in-advance




  • It is interesting. Calls for violence are against the TOS. There is actually nothing in the TOS or the sidebar rules about “Celebrating Violence”.

    I mean that is fine and all, and frankly it is a good policy. Just kinda bad form to be deleting so many posts for something that isn’t in the TOS.

    Seems the mods have added additional interpretations to the TOS and then used that as justification to delete a whole lot of the conversation.

    Anyways. I like violent video games. Is that celebrating violence, how about football? Can I like football here?








  • I posted in c/news about the mods being overzealous in deleting posts in these threads, and it was deleted for rule 6. Fair enough. However, I have looked over the modlogs for the post regarding this shooting and the number of posts that are being deleted for relatively innocuous comments is excessive.

    Being happy a bad person got shot is not : Glorifying Violence, Celebrating Violence, nor Inciting Violence.

    More over, If this were someone like Kim Jong-Un, or Putin who had been shot, I find it hard to believe the mods would be nearly so overzealous to delete comments saying in essence “good, he had it coming”.

    I don’t think the mods are intentionally skewing the conversation as much as they have an unexamined bias.

    It is okay for people to be happy a bad thing happened to a bad person. Other people are okay to disagree with this statement. Let the discussion (within reason) happen. If you aren’t prepared to moderate a discussion, turn off comments on your magazine.