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  • I just want to point out that, reading between the lines, the solutions that would make a difference to change immigration are:

    • Solve climate change
    • Undo the compounding effects of a war that destroyed a country
    • Jail people who hire undocumented immigrants

    Your first solution requires Republicans to believe in climate change (and Independents like Joe Manchin not to get in the way and water down the bill that passed). Your second solution requires investing billions in developing countries to right our wrongs and your third sounds like a Republican talking point.

    This is why I push back on the narrative that oversimplifies immigrataion as Republicans and Dems equally don’t care about immigration.


  • Does AOC need to visit a border to talk immigration when migrants are being bused into NYC daily? Curious if you live in a place where migrants are being bussed or not, because I do, and the reason no one is talking about migrant camps at the border is because they have migrant populations within the neighborhoods in a way that they didn’t pre-covid. There’s two migrants w/ toddlers less than two blocks from my apartment that panhandle daily. There’s migrants panhandling outside of the places I grocery shop and the bars that I frequent downtown. Immigration is tangible in a way that it wasn’t pre-Covid

    I think that, irrespective of party, Americans across the board have become more concerned about immigration, partially due to fear-mongering by Republicans for sure, but also due to Democratic strongholds getting a steady flow of immigrants (bussed in by Republicans, fwiw, but a level of immigration that they were not prepared for) and the conflicts for city resources and care have had an outsized impact on perspective/policy and expectations by the population as a whole. It isn’t that Democrats suddenly changed their perspective while everyone else remained the same. Every group of individuals polled increasingly became concerned about migration.

    It’s easy to frame it as ‘Dems don’t care’, and I’m not sure what you identify as, but looking at the data, people who identify as Dems actually care more than Republicans and Independents.

    I do not want to say that I am happy with the Dems accepting Republican-backed immigration policy positions but I do acknowledge just how unpopular immigration has become within Democratic circles let alone Republicans (and Independents who as a whole are historically more conservative than Democrats).

    Curious what would you suggest as a tenable immigration solution in 2024 that you think would likely get backing from Republicans and Democrats?


  • This wasn’t isolated to the Democrats and Republicans, IIRC it was the prevailing opinion across the nation irrespective of party.

    I’m sure there were Independents, and <insert minority group here> that were out there also looking for blood in the moment. I wouldn’t say because racism/xenophobia/violence exists within a group, it always has a home w/ said group (unless there was a vast majority that held the same belief) and so I’m always prone to push back when ppl paint w/ such a broad brush.

    I think that these generalizations that insinuate that both sides are equally inviting racism/xenophobia/violence does a disservice to the nuances of reality and encourage nihilsm/indifference.