wow you just ignore that biden wanted to give them the weapons anyways. you see its a little thing called providing cover. Biden didn’t fight against it because he wanted to give isreal the weapons.

it’d be a poor course it empirically incorrect on a number of counts.

lol. entire wall of text predicated on a position that is easily filled without congressional confirmed. someone didn’t pay attention to trumps presidency at all.

but lets hit on the misconceptions you’re spouting.

Once something becomes law, the President “has” to carry it out

incorrect. Presidents have refused to enforce/carry out laws repeatedly throughout history. that’s one of the powers of the executive branch. its not explicit but there is no enforcement mechanism. Your assertion that congress can sue is 100% true. what you’re missing is that during that time the president can just not due what the law says and these things can take years. Secondly even if a judge blocks an EO the president can still do it the judge has no enforcement mechanism. You may have learned about this little system in grade school: The honor system. which is entirely useless. There are historical instance of this such as worcester v georgia. abraham lincoln did it w/ habeus corpus and more recently Franklin D. Roosevelt.

But Harris likely wouldn’t have Blinken as Secretary of State, which would fix A WHOLE LOT.

biden can easily deal with blinken, its called firing and assigning a temporary individual to the role. not like he has a lot of time left there’d be no time to confirm a new individual anyways. Blinken simply isn’t the issue, biden was until we got rid of him by not supporting him. Now Harris is, she’s the one who has committed to genocide at this point thats causing the issue not blinken.

You’re entire ‘civics’ lesson ignores the historical realities of the presidency and EOs. especially in light of the recent SCOTUS ruling on presidential powers which expanded this ability by conferring it judicial backing.

What about all the innocent women who are dying in our country because of who trump appointed to the supreme court and the result was the overturning roe vs wade?

See state ballot initiatives. they’ve been far more effective in 4 years than democratic presidents and congress critters have in 5 decades.

What about the kids who get massacred in school shootings because Trump and people like him won’t support increased gun control legislation?

see above.

What about all the innocent people of color who have been killed by police? Do they matter to you?

see above. biden and harris support the police remember? they actively fought against police reforms.

If trump gets into the office not only will the Palestinian people be far worse off, so will every group I mentioned above and more.

yes that is unfortunately true, maybe you should inform harris to change her position on genocide to ensure the other groups are not put at risk over her hubris? On the flip side its a lot easier to protect the groups you’re white knighting for in your local community via your local reps and processes and your own personal actions.

Maybe you should realize you can in many states safely vote third party for president and democrats down ballot and essentially have the same national outcome while simultaneously undercutting the genocide harris is dead set on committing. thereby giving left wing congress critters more leverage with harris post election.

What you are really telling everyone here is that you are unwilling to give up a bit of your privileged lifestyle over a little bit of genocide. That says more about you than it does about the individuals withholding their support from harris.

So you think Trump would be better than Harris?

no, we (speaking for myself and @selah here) don’t support genocidal candidates. stop making up stories in your head and read what people are telling you.

Because that’s the only thing you get to vote on: Trump or Harris.

incorrect there were 5 candidates on my ballot. this is a false choice that exists purely in your head. There are many paths to neutralizing trump and that don’t normalize genocide.

A vote for neither is a vote for whoever has more votes

incorrect, pure fiction. i suggest you spruce up on your basic addition and ratio math skills. What you mean to say is no vote or a vote for a 3rd party doesn’t help harris, you’re preferred candidate. yes. thereby putting her candidacy at risk. maybe she should adopt some policies to fix this.

The reason harris is swinging to the right is because the right wing doesn’t care about worker rights and many are also very disgusted with trump. They require no concessions by capital to garner votes; just a general disgust with trump. If trump wasnt running this wouldn’t be possible.

Hilariously I have no problem with this as a left wing voter. Why? because if the democrats can reliably peel off the few remaining moderate republicans we can finally split this big tent party and get a party that is dedicated to working class rights.

this is just incorrect on so many levels.

first off: if you consistently vote for a candidate no matter what they do then they can write you off.

No politician is going to pay a group that plays hard to get much heed.

imagine thinking drawing a line at ‘genocide’ is playing hard to get. my god the bar is so low. no wonder we dont have any fucking working class rights. thanks, you definitely know what your doing.

There’s a reason causes championed by Black women always feature fairly heavily in the Democratic Party platform.

yes. do tell. how exactly have the democrats have targetted black women issues specifically? go on I’ll wait.

The real issue is democrats get funding from the 1% and are unwilling to promote worker rights. that’s why they write off the left base issues. fortunately for them the left has been bolstering them regardless every election for decades despite this because republicans would literally murder people for being different. And that generally continues, even right now with harris.

If you look at the policies from harris’ campaign and compare it to 2016/2020.

• no healthcare reform mostly just give aways to insurance companies through tax credits.
• no minimum wage increase.
• wont commit to keeping kahn the most effective FTC chair in more than 4 decades.
• wont commit to supporting striking workers.
• no mandated PTO/Sick leave for workers.

seems more corporate friendly than worker friendly to me. then add in a genocide on top and completely dismissing a minority group because they are inconvenient and here we are.

What left wing people are really telling you:

• vote for what you think is best. If you’re in a safe state go wild on third party candidates. swing state? probably better off w/ harris.
• let your reps know that your vote is at risk if the genocide continues post election. and then follow through in the next cycle.

I’ve seen many: ‘feel free to vote 3rd party, its okay to not support a genocidal candidate’ very few ‘dont vote or you support genocide’ are you sure you’re reading peoples posts correctly?

I’m going to ensure people know they are other options than voting for genocide. if harris loses to fucking trump as a result, that’s her fault not mine. learn to place blame were it properly belongs: On the person committed to a genocide. I didnt force her down this path. I didnt force you down this path. You and her choose it willingly.

Let me know when you’re willing to stop supporting a genocide and then we can talk.

yawn tired trope. there are other levers to pull for reducing essentially every other harm. its clear you dont understand how to effectively leverage your vote to reduce harm and are supportive of a genocide. congrats i guess?

Let me know when you’re no longer a willing participant in a genocide and then we can talk about harm reduction.

no, I’d ‘go after’ them. not vote, not support, actively fight against. as i am doing now.

you: ‘Excuse me dear these two murders are running for office, I have to let one of them murder our children’ jfc you poor soul.

Any other vote is a vote for trump

This is just factually incorrect. And easily demonstrated using math you should have learned in the 5th grade.

Trump: 5 votes

Harris: 5 votes

Any other vote: 5 votes

If i keep adding votes to ‘any other vote’ the ratio between trump / Harris will not change.

T: 5 H: 5 AOV: 10000

Ratio is still one see? In no way is Harris’ chances of winning impacted by a third party vote.

What you mean to say is ‘Harris having shitty policies that are abhorrent to the voting population causes her to be at risk of losing to a literal fascist.’

By trying to put the blame on other voters because you are willing to overlook genocide says more about you than it does them.

There is only one person who can fix Harris’ platform. Put the blame where it rightfully belongs, on harris.

Dont disagree ive been actively campaigning for rcv etc in my state for years. Thankfully i can do two things at the same time.

Edit: sandbox this not directed at you. Just clarifying.

Last I checked no one has suggested supporting trump instead. Seek help you’ve been seeing things that are not real.

To everyone else show up, vote with your heart. I live in a safe state, i still voted down ballot for the majority of my reps. If you’re in a similar situation please consider doing the same and contacting your reps and letting them know why. Dont let Kamala and the dnc force you into supporting a genocide its not worth it.

If you’re in a swing state do what you need to do to protect your local community in whatever way you can. Yes, including supporting harris if thats what it’ll take, despite shitty of a candidate she is¹. I promise you people like myself are not upset with people supporting kamala. I have no interest in shaming you for voting.

But if you think trying to stop a genocide is unreasonable, well… You’re the problem, and i will happily call you out for your disgusting bullshit.

¹ Kamala has remained uncommited to labor. (No policies for pto,sick leave, healthcare reform, workers rights.

Kamala has remained uncommited to keeping khan the best head of the FTC we’ve seen in my life. See related mentions about labor they’re coupled.

Kamala has done more to harm the muslim community than just supporting a genocide shes actively suppressed them in our own country, if she’s willing to throw one minority group under the bus shes willing to throw others.

Why when i can do it now? The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The 2nd best time is now.

If kamala loses thats her fault. Not mine. She could have demonstrated support for Palestinians she has decided to snub a minority group at literally every turn.

No one is asking kamala to commit to a course she has no control over. Whether we sell arms to Israel is squarely in the presidents hands. We have laws in the books that cover this exact situation. Kamala needs to ‘follow the law’ as she is often quoted saying.

Now i suggest you go get checked for mental health issues as you clearly think committing a genocide is perfectly acceptable and that people voting against it are the problem. No one has forced Kamala into this position but herself. No one has forced you into your insanity except yourself.

😂 imagine thinking not supporting a genocide is an unreasonable demand. Say the quiet part out loud. Phew.

Seek help child. You certainly need it.

Indeed he will, and so will harris. Biden has slow walked support for Ukraine as well.

I’m sorry Kamala has decided to be a shitty human (its hardly just gaza that has caused my vote to be casted for a 3rd party). But thats the way the cookie crumbled. I can do more to protect people on these shores via other means of direct action. Kamala changing positions on gaza is all i can do for my Palestinian brothers and sisters.

If you think changing a position on genocide is unreasonable, you are the problem. No one is saying dont protect israel, no one is saying they cant defend themselves. Neither situation applies atm. Israel is the aggressor at this point.

Have you ever noticed how everyone goes on and on about the right to defend themselves and then conveniently ignoring that as soon as the threat is neutralized self defense no longer applies?

Israel is the antagonist at this point. They dont have to keep invading new regions. They’ve managed to kill more hostages than they’ve rescued.

They keep killing journalist, doctors, nurses, etc from international organizations.

If you think telling kamala and the Democrats to stop supporting this is unreasonable: You. Are. The. Problem.

Lol no i dont. Id be going after both of them.

why not? either one would be better than harris or trump at this time. primarily due to the fact neither has the support of a major group of genocidal congress critters.

snicker someone doesn’t know how voting works clearly when living in a blue/red state.

also can someone find me a rabies shot? this one is foaming at the mouth.