Yeah but it isn’t the key central focus of the deal anymore then. It’s just a convenient accessory.

We can still observe and discuss methods for making observations.

Yes. Hypotheses. Ideas.

But the point of the scientific method is to get us high-quality ideas. How would that cure the derangement of an idea-centered perspective?.

Maybe if you removed the model-making part. Leave the primacy of observation and the utility of peer-review. Maybe.

There is also the assumption of the central importance of ideas, which is a rather deranged perspective when you think about it.

Don’t get me wrong, ideas have high utility, for memory and language and such, but still.

An idea is just a little thing, and any association between it and the rest of reality is purely contrived.

Do you think it’s a conscious plan to mindcontrol everybody or is it just a basement dweller treating his mod powers like the ultimate downvote?

But you uttered an opinion about moderation. So address my point.

Most? Well not my conversations.

Maybe it’s a smalltalk vs “largetalk” thing. Maybe most conversations are smalltalk. Talk that’s just friendly noise or whatever.

That is a territory with which I am pretty unfamiliar.

But ya, 2 totally different kinds of talk.

Maybe trolling constitutes a 3rd variety.

Well there is no clean connection between the rule and reality (short of forbidden word lists anyway). It’s always a matter of somebody’s interpretation.

Some communities have rules like “don’t be a dick”, which seems implied.

Maybe rules are inappropriate here. At best a justification.

Actually it ain’t. Good, catch

What if they got off topic. What would happen?

Also, do you think that you understand their conversation better than they do? All of them?

But it’s a very good guideline for people who, like moderators, have power and imperfect understanding. It’s saying, “when in doubt, err on the side of least possible harm”. So that’s a good guide. Right?

be in the community but secretly …

Oh that will work out just fine.

Bigotry

That is a very popular word lately

So you want to shape us.

How about just letting us talk?

But if they’re saying the wrong stuff then I get to hit them with my modhammer. Right?

Influence, narrative-control, hurting the other tribe, control over a little domain. Those are good pay for some people.

And sometimes it’s hard to tell the difference.

What do you do when that happens? What guides do you look to?

If you trust this person to tell you, and everybody else here, how to speak, then either your speech is worthless to you or this conversation is worthless to you.

We like music for the same reason we like games, stories and successfully accomplishing tasks.

It’s the vibe that it evokes.

Patterns evoke a vibe too.

Vibe = poetry emotion energy.

It’s a sensation like sight, sound, smell etc. Just a different kind.

Remember kids, the most powerful propaganda is the kind you never see.

It’s just the truth. And everybody who disagrees is obviously insane.