I don’t expect that to come first. First they’ll go for the “illegals” which will likely be any brown people regardless of immigration status.

That will probably take them a couple years. But the outrage it causes will compel the “dissidents” to speak out and resist. At this point, they’ll really turn up the propaganda machine on them, demonizing them and making them easy targets. By the next election cycle (if we even have one by then), they’ll start round them up and it will all be over.

Who says it needs to be government employees?

I’m sure there’s plenty of militias out there who would be happy to do all this rounding up for Trump, once he gives them a wink and a nod. Wouldn’t even need to pay them.

I mean, he’s an ex-pat who was living in Hong Kong, S Korea, and Vietnam for most of Trumps first term… so I’m sure he didn’t feel it as hard as most of us who were here for it.

Yeah, I am definitely in the camp that Trump part 2 will be worse…. but we don’t know for sure yet

Yes, my friend was one of them. I was shocked when 2 weeks before election he told me he was planning on not voting.

I asked why and he cited holding the same position Isreal as Biden, and courting republicans like Cheney, saying that was not a good look for the party at all.

I told him it’s not ideal, but we need to vote to keep Trump out…. Sometimes we just have to be pragmatic.

He responded saying it’s the Dem establishment that keeps allowing a boogey man like Trump to rise so they can shove center right corporatists down our throats. He said he was abstaining from voting to send a message to the DNC, and followed it up with, “we survived a first Trump term, I’m sure we can survive a second.”

Walls require a lot more effort. Experts and architects to design the thing, land which is both expensive and sometimes tricky to acquire, and materials and hard physical labor which is also costly.

Rounding up illegals just requires some willing thugs, some weapons, vehicles, and maybe a dumpy place to drop them while you wait for them to be cleared across the border. I’m willing to bet there’s plenty out there who would do this for free, and even happily provide their own equipment.

Incompetence and in-fighting were my thoughts as to why they wouldn’t execute

Which means you have to be willing to do whatever they ask of you.

At which point it becomes more than just telling them what they want to hear, but doing what they want you to do. Which in the end isn’t any different than actually believing that crap and truly being loyal.

Except, being at-will means it’s no longer really very cushy.

John Oliver detailed all of this several months ago. It all seems terrifying, if they end up actually being to execute the strategy.

I dunno much about German politics, are they somehow in a broken / divided government or something?

Sounds like they’re saying the threat of a Trump controlled US would be a call to action to bring the government together and restore its function.

Well, a married household is basically a commune.

I dunno… since it’s actual physical stickers instead of a simple photoshop, I’d say the effort is at least mid

That’s why he’s aging so fast right now… he’s working really hard to try and stay out of prison!

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Even in California, we got automatic voter registration passed the legislature, only for the governor to veto it.

Just wild that something so fundamental to a functioning democracy is so divisive.

Yeah, I thought this was common knowledge

And they said it was “too close to the election” to replace Biden with Harris. How stupid.

So people tend to “live longer” where there’s poverty, rewards for reaching old age (pensions) and poor record keeping (e.g. birth certificates). Fascinating coincidences!!